Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:40291) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TJgLM-0000AQ-K7; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:59 -0700 Received: by mail-gg0-f189.google.com with SMTP id l2sf277036ggn.16 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+jm5F9mxc74J5/9lt+CYO+wqPulLgCjeLr2QBuP2X+E=; b=tTLNNYDwNbOQXdLWbLkqbmN2znk9my8xh4MjTUgiunebCXohR8ebxnhA50q6go06EF GsZwlIo14WKJb6hx6tqp3A1wWI27a4mWYuqLqFeiLu8ZOg5d4p76UBq+WtqpkSmeaihc KZFryP71IL9qTNwoSwWQyXNFVpXd/aRlatDJUgK23/GMVjI32+D86UzPpaYuibjvvUBH 84wGSwkOokCWjO5y90RPfC/v33dKspt5MII4cphsYE63HWpMMAEOEMKv8F5rp/YGQueV 7Z0ocyXD9WlCOkj6L1sJX3XZVYf/vOkyhOgzx7ZBKo3SvA/5RAYDd3TjynRhjPZjjFip fGtA== Received: by 10.52.71.109 with SMTP id t13mr788524vdu.0.1349337573768; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.36.237 with SMTP id t13ls1982320vdj.3.gmail; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.30.164 with SMTP id t4mr787041vdh.4.1349337573210; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 00:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 00:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> References: <75e248bd-5f19-4528-8b2a-f6360bca7e2f@googlegroups.com> <3e6ec3ab-6f44-42b2-a255-8d5f1a2b5444@googlegroups.com> <609a986d-438d-41b0-89ce-bb3788885c04@googlegroups.com> <7c00388b-7a75-4c50-94c7-8fe780ed7849@googlegroups.com> <763ae57a-a53d-4e0a-a042-99e282ec411f@googlegroups.com> <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3022_29157619.1349337572874" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_3022_29157619.1349337572874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:57:37 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:15:54 PM UTC+4, Marica Odagaki wrote: >> >> .uisai I'm all for adopting MediaWiki as the official wiki. >> >> > Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. >> Let's make it better than the old one. Together. >> >> I have a few suggestions to make this project better yet: >> >> A. Set short-term goals. >> - 1. Create overview pages targeted at newcomers/learning & teaching/etc. >> - 2. Go over all the TikiWiki pages and migrate them where necessary. >> Last time I checked, there are 2357 of them. >> >> >> B. Broadly categorize pages. >> - About: introduction to the language and organizations >> - Guides: learning materials, faq >> - Documentation: grammar documentation/dictionary/baseline definition >> - Writings: Lojbanic writings/multimedia/games >> - Encyclopedia of related topics >> - News >> - Projects >> - Participation guides >> - People >> - Proposals >> >> (Discussions should happen in the "Talk" side of the page.) >> >> These are gleaned from a wiki pages categorization project >> I'd been tackling by myself: >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqPDUjCrM_cfdDI5NzBIMzhCRHZJWGF2Tzl4R245N3c >> >> Giving the wiki a minimum structure will help grow it without falling >> into a chaotic state. >> >> >> C. Define what goes into the wiki, and state it in the wiki. >> - All of the above (in B.) >> - Questions should be asked in the mailing-list first. >> >> >> Do these sound all good? >> > > go'isai > > Especially "minimum structure". I don't want lojban.org/tiki to be shut > down. > > AND NOW IMPORTANT MESSAGE. > Robin INSTALLED MEDIAWIKI ON HIS SERVER. THE CURRENT ADDRESS IS > http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/ralju_ckupau > > Problems that I can see so far: > 1. I can't create folders in the root of mediawiki installation. And > probably therefore impossible to upload files. > Solved. 2. Not only I should have sftp access to that root folder (who is familiar > with MediaWiki? Whom can we trust?) > 3. I haven't found appropriate extension to localise wiki pages on the fly > like it is done in Tiki. > Translate Extension installed. > > > I hope Robin will fix the first problem himself. > > As for the third problem I'm waiting for suggestions. > > > >> mu'o >> >> >> On Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:23:10 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20:20 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you for the clarification. >>>> >>>> What does the logo in the upper left part of the screen stand for? >>>> >>> Well, just 25 years of Lojban, nothing more. >>> >>> >>>> Oh, and the opening page is currently filled with some non-Lojban text. >>>> Maybe the standard propaganda ( >>>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la%20lojban.%20mo?no_bl=y ) would be >>>> fitting? >>>> >>>> iesk >>>> >>> >>> >>> Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's >>> make it better than the old one. 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On Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:57:37 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 2= 9, 2012 12:15:54 PM UTC+4, Marica Odagaki wrote:
.uisai I'm all for adopting MediaWiki as the official wik= i.

> Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself= . Tell me what you need. Let's make it better than the old one. Together.

I have a few suggestions to make this project b= etter yet:

A. Set short-term goals.
- 1.= Create overview pages targeted at newcomers/learning & teaching/etc.
- 2. Go over all the TikiWiki pages and migrate them where necessa= ry.
     Last time I checked, there are 2357 of th= em.


B. Broadly categorize pages.
- About: introduction to the language and organizations
-= Guides: learning materials, faq
- Documentation: grammar documen= tation/dictionary/baseline definition
- Writings: Lojbanic w= ritings/multimedia/games
- Encyclopedia of related topics
- News
- Projects
- Participation guides
-= People
- Proposals

(Discussions should = happen in the "Talk" side of the page.)

These are = gleaned from a wiki pages categorization project
I'd been tacklin= g by myself:

Giving the wiki = a minimum structure will help grow it without falling into a chaotic state.=


C. Define what goes into the wiki,= and state it in the wiki.
- All of the above (in B.)
-= Questions should be asked in the mailing-list first.

<= div>
Do these sound all good?

=
go'isai

Especially "minimum structure".= I don't want lojban.o= rg/tiki to be shut down.

AND NOW IMPORTANT MES= SAGE.
Robin INSTALLED MEDIAWIKI ON HIS SERVER. THE CURRENT ADDRES= S IS

Problems that I can see so = far:
1. I can't create folders in the root of mediawiki installat= ion. And probably therefore impossible to upload files.
<= div>
Solved. 

2. Not only I should have sftp access to that r= oot folder (who is familiar with MediaWiki? Whom can we trust?)
3. I haven't found appropriate extension to localise wiki pages on the f= ly like it is done in Tiki.

Translate= Extension installed. 


I hope Robin will  fix the first= problem himself.

As for the third problem I'm wai= ting for suggestions.



mu'o


On Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:23:10 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote:

On Wednesday, September 26, 2= 012 10:20:20 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.

What does the logo in the upper left pa= rt of the screen stand for?

Well, just 25 years of Lo= jban, nothing more.
 

Oh, and the opening page is currently filled with some non-Lojban= text. Maybe the standard propaganda ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki= /la%20lojban.%20mo?no_bl=3Dy ) would be fitting?

iesk



Please, develop the wiki, edit= it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it better than the old one.= Together.

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