On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Michael Turniansky <= mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

=A0 Which is why I did not = say "brablo" =A0Private owership of ANY size boat, even a dinghy,= is a "great" thing that would impress others. =A0See definition = of banli.
=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned previously on this thread, size isn't the determining fact= or for whether a boat is a yacht, and there are many ships (ex.: cruise shi= ps, cargo ships, tankers, aircraft carriers) that are big and are /not/ yac= hts.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Michael Tur= niansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

=A0 As to a word for "yacht", I'm surprised = no one has suggested "balblo"
=A0 =A0--gejyspa

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:44 AM, = Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

I seriously suggest ke / -kem-. In fact, I t= hought about raising the point earlier, when I saw {za'i surla kei bard= a bloti} which is a "(relaxingly big) boat".
Anyway, I have a more constructive suggestion for "private": what= about {tolgubni} ?

gubni =3D x1 is public/jointly owned/accessible to x2.<= /div>
tolgubni =3D pei x1 is private, owned/accesible only to x2.
=

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 14 September 2012 09:35, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> w= rote:

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> My only objection to the use of sivni is that sivni is private as in p= rivate
> thoughts, but I don't really have a better alternative. "Priv= ate property"
> isn't property kept hidden or in secret, it's merely something= owned by an
> individual (or sometimes a small group of individuals like in the case= of
> family-owned and timeshares). But as I said, I don't have any good=
> alternatives- I don't think pukypreposblo is better.

pukypreposblo =3D pluka ke prenu ponse bloti

The objection I have about this is that a yacht is not necessarily
private in terms of possession, but it's private in terms of usage. A cruise ship holds many passengers which are brought together by a
cruise ship agency, and many of those passengers most likely don't
know each other. A yacht may be owned by a yacht charter business, and
many are; but it's mostly chartered by families or group of friends, or maybe even by coworkers; so it's more likely privately *used*.

And yes, that's my uncertainty about sivni; it has "private" = on its
definition, but it seemed to be more about confidentiality althought I
was not sure.

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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