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On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:40 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 12:14:36 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:
>>
>> form is not a document. It's rather a list. And you don't make it
>>> {mulno}. You just define values of fileds in it.
>>> So the translation from English into logical English must be
>>> "fill out a form" - "to define/assign (all) values of fields of {se
>>> tcidu}" (I really can't translate se tcidu to English)
>>>
>>
>> So, can you say it as a full sentence?
>>
>
> "I fill out a form."  - "I assign values of fields printed on a sheet of
> paper".
>
> No lojban translation, sorry.
> My question remains. {mulgau lo papri} looks like a metaphor for me.
>
> --
>

  But what you have just described is making something complete.  When
something has holes, and you fill in those holes, you are completing it.
 When a form has holes (blanks), and you fill them in, you are making it
complete in the property of lacking no information  (mulgau lo ntoci  lo ka
tolcau lo selvei)
      --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at=
 4:40 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><br><br>On Monday, October=
 15, 2012 12:14:36 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left:1ex">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>form is not a document. It&#39=
;s rather a list. And you don&#39;t make it {mulno}. You just define values=
 of fileds in it.</div>
<div>So the translation from English into logical English must be</div><div=
>&quot;fill out a form&quot; - &quot;to define/assign (all) values of field=
s of {se tcidu}&quot; (I really can&#39;t translate se tcidu to English)</d=
iv>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>So, can you say it as a full sentence?=A0<=
/div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>&quot;I fill out a form.&quot; =
=A0- &quot;I assign values of fields printed on a sheet of paper&quot;.</di=
v>
<div><br></div><div>No lojban translation, sorry.</div><div>My question rem=
ains. {mulgau lo papri} looks like a metaphor for me.</div><div class=3D"im=
">

<p></p>

--=A0</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=A0 But what you have just desc=
ribed is making=A0something=A0complete. =A0When something has holes, and yo=
u fill in those holes, you are completing it. =A0When a form has holes (bla=
nks), and you fill them in, you are making it complete in the property of l=
acking no information =A0(mulgau lo ntoci =A0lo ka tolcau lo selvei)</div>
<div>=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br></div></div></div>

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