Received: from mail-oa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.219.61]:38478) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TNmbm-00071B-5c; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:43 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id o6sf4615403oag.16 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xGSV94AfKhTDcpXp6Px5mZFHRc/18d3d0MFEHjx2PAA=; b=IOJcCc3WOi+PFeu722ZUITlHFNeFeJSs8Z94Je9uRFo6F1cI+XzHzw/nDRyQX3AyMt nYNfq90UcDX6OFDCITrw3r6Pv311xKBnD8m5RVEtKkHsjyv1lzeus6PnzqXbDGDrcSdk hLWp4UHElGOhHLNqE+F+oE6Fet/w/1igsYAPGKkBOEBDB+C1MA86q7v/0Cs2nRK6JelN VsdoCy+F6SfXd6fYhEmKgBwM+tyNzAJQFtZ32zfxuAxrVNYD0Ud8Hg6ctH/CMVS1z7AA PpzD465JoEWF91Ul/3ujST7j6wd+6FpXuIXQhYjl6ZLtJu+FiMMvvwc+66HfwhKizkvX hUJg== Received: by 10.52.28.45 with SMTP id y13mr1724059vdg.10.1350314967371; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.154.5 with SMTP id m5ls3489819vcw.2.gmail; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.74.99 with SMTP id s3mr500790vdv.20.1350314966751; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban] Can the inconsistency with {seisa'a ... se'u} be overrriden? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_411_2873544.1350314966367" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_411_2873544.1350314966367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the CLL says: Note: The parser believes that parentheses are attached to the previous=20 word or construct, because it treats them as syntactic equivalents of=20 subscripts and other such so-called =93free modifiers=94. Semantically,=20 however, parenthetical remarks are not necessarily attached either to what= =20 precedes them or what follows them. ...12.8) lu seisa'a la djan. cusku be dei mi klama le zarci John said, =93I go to the store=94. 12.9) lu mi klama seisa'a la djan cusku le zarci =93I go=94, John said, =93to the store=94. So is there any method of attaching sei ... se'u to bridi or jufra, not to= =20 the previous word? Compared to that the example 15.2) .i sei la rik. cusku se'u ta'a ro zvati be ti mi baza speni ti .iu [Comment] Rick says, [end-comment] [Interrupt] all at this-place, I [future] [medium] am-spouse-to this-one [love]. Rick said, =93Sorry to break in, everybody. Pretty soon I=92m gettin= g married to my love here.=94 seems pretty perfect. {sei} is attached to the head of the sentence. But if= =20 due to stylistic preferences I wanna insert {sei... se'u} in the middle of= =20 the sentence is there anything that can be done? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/UsvcA-K61pwJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_411_2873544.1350314966367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the CLL says:

= Note: The parser believes that parentheses are attached to the previous wor= d or construct, because it treats them as syntactic equivalents of subscrip= ts and other such so-called =93free modifiers=94. Semantically, however, pa= renthetical remarks are not necessarily attached either to what precedes th= em or what follows them.

...12.8) lu seisa'a la djan. cusku be dei mi klama= le zarci
       John said, =93I go to the =
store=94.

12.9)  lu mi klama =
seisa'a la djan cusku le zarci
       =93I go=94, John said, =93to the store=94.

<= /pre>
So is there any method of attaching sei ... se'u to bridi or jufra= , not to the previous word?

Compared to that
=
the example
15.2)  .i sei la rik. cusku se'u ta'a ro zvati be ti
            mi baza speni ti .iu
       [Comment] Rick says, [end-comment] [Interrupt] all at this-place,
            I [future] [medium] am-spouse-to this-one [love].
       Rick said, =93Sorry to break in, everybody. Pretty soon I=92m gettin=
g married
            to my love here.=94


seems pr= etty perfect. {sei} is attached to the head of the sentence. But if due to = stylistic preferences I wanna insert {sei... se'u} in the middle of the sen= tence is there anything that can be done?

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