Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:45218) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TNoLw-0008KQ-Iu; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:24 -0700 Received: by mail-gg0-f189.google.com with SMTP id o6sf4684935ggm.16 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=OmcSOJOH3B82Ju+SmzKUyH40HoGB6AtWZeWZuOsbHls=; b=v/WummRP4e5ilG/xLP2NH5byLapFWNa5BlT9lNPGVMPDrKhHGO3F6OYdXTEgMwRl57 PlWkoOrTXgp09QydNQAFHLznBcUWLiB+k+cpcf2BERd0kuRK8al8hrEgEdXOFYrBsX6t Ki6/VQMt8PiX6S0uyK5Lgt0W2g4kyFwE2ojnmAQMWvK77J4teYhWp3mZJHYh1i+QmDih M9ahiE8ytbXy0O18jxvSpq/bgLkq2ksHUTWeWYpOOyLB5jXt04om1wH2G1gJWZa8Naye PptP/BqAK8vaiYCzlXrbccidDDKIkfh06bRv1ea5DAm6T4Cf4VLHUaVT8JnHL4aPVWbG IJtQ== Received: by 10.52.29.174 with SMTP id l14mr1838599vdh.13.1350321673852; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls3612418vcu.8.gmail; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.20.51 with SMTP id k19mr1165624vde.4.1350321673458; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <61d85a73-4eb4-4bd2-9c69-f47e3d4d1e16@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <507C38D4.2070306@gmx.de> References: <507C2E87.7010700@gmx.de> <507C38D4.2070306@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] Can the inconsistency with {seisa'a ... se'u} be overrriden? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1482_11298098.1350321672768" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1482_11298098.1350321672768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, October 15, 2012 8:28:01 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote: > > Am 15.10.2012 18:02, schrieb la gleki:=20 > >=20 > > Does it mean then that=20 > >=20 > > /do sei mi prami do se'u klama la .landyn./=20 > > and=20 > > /do klama la .landyn. sei mi prami do se'u/=20 > >=20 > > mean the same?=20 > > You mean "sei mi do prami [se'u]". SEI closes automatically once it sees= =20 > a completed selbri.=20 > I would say they mean the same, yes.=20 > so sei...se'u always refers to the whole bridi.=20 OK. Now how can I express UI using brivla? using {to'i}? or what? > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20 > --=20 > pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo=20 > > do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u=20 > .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u=20 > ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu=20 > .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi=20 > gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi=20 > .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku=20 > > > .=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/JTB6siNRsb8J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_1482_11298098.1350321672768 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, October 15, 2012 8:28:01 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:Am 15.10.2012 18:02, schrieb la gleki= :
>
> Does it mean then that
>
> /do sei mi prami do se'u klama la .landyn./
> and
> /do klama la .landyn. sei mi prami do se'u/
>
> mean the same?

You mean "sei mi do prami [se'u]". SEI closes automatically once it see= s=20
a completed selbri.
I would say they mean the same, yes.

so sei...se'u always refers to the who= le bridi. 
OK. Now how can I express UI using brivla?
<= div>using {to'i}? or what?
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