Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:47929) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TNrr1-0002Ei-Lf; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:48 -0700 Received: by mail-bk0-f61.google.com with SMTP id jg15sf2407138bkc.16 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dchNmwYSX333PP0IfcPKMnI2gKXKyaflh7Jrl5dFxhQ=; b=PkJ8RVvsGi7lPNw2pg/WsEnHXiJKLv/dPh7kPgLykAeCpZQU3FfbKAxpBQU9l7l0gu c4NdGFm5Tu9/qCf1CmMheOhC9on1k3r8ldjdGYtEOtRaTwshYiOkAi4rb0f6aZ9t9/4H bMKDmzXCrEt/M/SgodeDT3hNi2bpxJWGIEeqIyP+InYU8DW2/eSkE+z2BYVlXHlLg2tU xhMBVLGvCiYf2hWQ1VXbmxc2iVGLlvfFwuS3GORUWiTO23fXbTA6pXDfP79KYKmd3bSy 1aFQpnh+IHXYnd5TxlanZl8Iz1ljWeyFk0bAKnADMJ883kkfpW7Ese9LkRKJ/yEfPp7G Ih6Q== Received: by 10.180.97.194 with SMTP id ec2mr2176543wib.0.1350335131845; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.105.1 with SMTP id gi1ls8639202wib.2.canary; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.91.231 with SMTP id ch7mr3044487wib.1.1350335129693; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.91.231 with SMTP id ch7mr3044485wib.1.1350335129683; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id b5si810820wie.2.2012.10.15.14.05.29; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.22; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Oct 2012 21:05:29 -0000 Received: from p57A08346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.131.70] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 15 Oct 2012 23:05:29 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/E8R1bDDLEVf7dbhOjm1oP+9S2luxIDQhW7c6vDD gaIB5lXNlSAzEo Message-ID: <507C7A93.5050302@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:05:23 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Can the inconsistency with {seisa'a ... se'u} be overrriden? References: <507C2E87.7010700@gmx.de> <507C38D4.2070306@gmx.de> <61d85a73-4eb4-4bd2-9c69-f47e3d4d1e16@googlegroups.com> <507C4C0B.7050504@gmx.de> <26a4fcc5-aebe-4188-bc03-a26c43d90508@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <26a4fcc5-aebe-4188-bc03-a26c43d90508@googlegroups.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 15.10.2012 22:59, schrieb iesk: > (Is {sei} related to TLI's {soi}, and is 'emotional comment' its original= use? I *think* the ubiquitous {soi crano} means roughly {u'i}, but I may b= e really badly mistaken.) > Yes, Lojban's "sei" is Loglan's "soi". It's true that "soi crano" was=20 used a lot, but I think it was more like " *grin* ". Also, Loglan was=20 lacking UI, so of course soi had to fill that "hole". mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.