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On 24 October 2012 18:22, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Although I don't fully follow what it is you're trying to get at here,
>> it's generally agreed upon that using ka that way is no good. In general
>> use, ka is used only for "pure functions" -- properties and not qualitites,
>> which is how the CLL describes ka.
>
>
> Okay.
>
>
> That being said, I'd just use {nu}, which I believe represents an
>> particular instance of a predication, which is just a property with the
>> ce'u-places filled in:
>>
>> {lo nu lo fagri cu glare cu pluka mi}
>> or perhaps,
>> {lo nu seli'i lo fagri cu glare cu pluka mi}
>>
>
> The second one is interesting.  Instead of "nu seli'i", why not just
> "li'i"?  Is "nu" rquired by pluka?
>
>

Not at all. You could use bare {li'i}
{.i lo li'i fagri glare cu pluka mi}
If you ask me, it's a beautiful way of saying it, albeit uncommon. (I don't
recall ever seeing this, but it's semantically correct in my opinion.)


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On 24 October 2012 18:22, Mike S. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
aikxlx@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">maikxlx@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:=
20 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex">


Although I don&#39;t fully follow what it is you&#39;re trying to get at he=
re, it&#39;s generally agreed upon that using ka that way is no good. In ge=
neral use, ka is used only for &quot;pure functions&quot; -- properties and=
 not qualitites, which is how the CLL describes ka.</blockquote>


</div><div><br>Okay.<br>=A0<br><br></div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div>

</div><div>That being said, I&#39;d just use {nu}, which I believe represen=
ts an particular instance of a predication, which is just a property with t=
he ce&#39;u-places filled in:</div><div><br></div><div>{lo nu lo fagri cu g=
lare cu pluka mi}</div>




<div>or perhaps,</div><div>{lo nu seli&#39;i lo fagri cu glare cu pluka mi}=
</div></blockquote></div><div><br>The second one is interesting.=A0 Instead=
 of &quot;nu seli&#39;i&quot;, why not just &quot;li&#39;i&quot;?=A0 Is &qu=
ot;nu&quot; rquired by pluka?=A0 <br>


=A0<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not at all. You could u=
se bare {li&#39;i}</div><div>{.i lo li&#39;i fagri glare cu pluka mi}</div>=
<div>If you ask me, it&#39;s a beautiful way of saying it, albeit uncommon.=
 (I don&#39;t recall ever seeing this, but it&#39;s semantically correct in=
 my opinion.)</div>

<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">-- <br>co ma&#39;a mk=
e<br><br>

Xorban blog: <a href=3D"http://xorban.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank">Xor=
ban.wordpress.com</a><br>My LL blog: <a href=3D"http://loglang.wordpress.co=
m/" target=3D"_blank">Loglang.wordpress.com</a> <br>
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