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Hello!

And nice to hear that my idea sparks interest! Where are you from, by the=
=20
way? Do you have a chance to see the actual performance when it's ready?
I uploaded the text as .rtf here:=20
koti.phnet.fi/jpylvas/humancondition/godot/
Check it out and tell me what you think! =20
Since most of the audience will not recognize the language, the translation=
=20
doesn't have to be perfect. Even literal would do fine (although my=20
translator spouse would kill me for saying this out loud)... But still one=
=20
question:  the text has a distinct semi-religious/ceremonial style and I=20
wonder how would that translate in Lojban? How does lojban "work" with=20
different styles?=20
And do you think you could make us also an audio file to help with=20
pronounciation? I know all of this is a lot to ask, but since I think the=
=20
idea is so good we better execute it as well as possible.

J.=20


keskiviikko, 31. lokakuuta 2012 19.04.00 UTC+2 selpa'i kirjoitti:
>
> Am 31.10.2012 09:58, schrieb jpy...@gmail.com <javascript:>:=20
> > Hello everybody!=20
>
> Hello!=20
>
> > I'm preparing a play called The Human Condition, which will have its=20
> > premiere early December in Helsinki, Finland. [...]=20
> > The reason I'm approaching the international Lojban community is that=
=20
> > I'd like one of the characters on stage to speak only Lojban.=20
>
> Cool, sounds interesting. Surely it would be great to have Lojban=20
> featured in a real play.=20
>
>  > Would anybody (or a group of=20
> > people) be interested in helping me out? The original is written in=20
> > English, it's five pages (about 1000 words) with lots of repetition.=20
>
> I might be interested in helping with the translation. Where can we find=
=20
> the text that needs to translated?=20
>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20
> --=20
> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo=20
>
> do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u=20
>     .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u=20
> ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu=20
>     .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi=20
> gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi=20
>     .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku=20
>
>
> .=20
>

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Hello!<br><br>And nice to hear that my idea sparks interest! Where are you =
from, by the way? Do you have a chance to see the actual performance when i=
t's ready?<br>I uploaded the text as .rtf here: <a href=3D"http://koti.phne=
t.fi/jpylvas/humancondition/godot/">koti.phnet.fi/jpylvas/humancondition/go=
dot/</a><br>Check it out and tell me what you think!&nbsp; <br>Since most o=
f the audience will not recognize the language, the translation doesn't hav=
e to be perfect. Even literal would do fine (although my translator spouse =
would kill me for saying this out loud)... But still one question:&nbsp; th=
e text has a distinct semi-religious/ceremonial style and I wonder how woul=
d that translate in Lojban? How does lojban "work" with different styles? <=
br>And do you think you could make us also an audio file to help with prono=
unciation? I know all of this is a lot to ask, but since I think the idea i=
s so good we better execute it as well as possible.<br><br>J. <br><br><br>k=
eskiviikko, 31. lokakuuta 2012 19.04.00 UTC+2 selpa'i kirjoitti:<blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Am 31.10.2012 09:58, schrieb <a href=3D"j=
avascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"NGmXoNNIDkAJ">jpy...=
@gmail.com</a>:
<br>&gt; Hello everybody!
<br>
<br>Hello!
<br>
<br>&gt; I'm preparing a play called The Human Condition, which will have i=
ts
<br>&gt; premiere early December in Helsinki, Finland. [...]
<br>&gt; The reason I'm approaching the international Lojban community is t=
hat
<br>&gt; I'd like one of the characters on stage to speak only Lojban.
<br>
<br>Cool, sounds interesting. Surely it would be great to have Lojban=20
<br>featured in a real play.
<br>
<br>&nbsp;&gt; Would anybody (or a group of
<br>&gt; people) be interested in helping me out? The original is written i=
n
<br>&gt; English, it's five pages (about 1000 words) with lots of repetitio=
n.
<br>
<br>I might be interested in helping with the translation. Where can we fin=
d=20
<br>the text that needs to translated?
<br>
<br>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
<br>--=20
<br>pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
<br>
<br>do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
<br>ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
<br>gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku
<br>
<br>
<br>.
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