Received: from mail-da0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:50906) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TU1kk-0005ux-4g; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:45 -0700 Received: by mail-da0-f61.google.com with SMTP id k18sf1956107dae.16 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=wTeV8+jkIHTSFSt0OVbpH8t/4Uc3YAi6nD/JcQ8/e+I=; b=wlEieT4LKT69SYbcMVCSu9NfWc9tj+2+QL9vSt0APGHMfB/OfC08G5TdeIjI2kzCVJ SvVH6v02E87D9fZSpR6H2mUmHoZD5/gNY0r/0OWZP65LxuCHtNncLGVgqQKUGFfjq290 9Gb97fy21Whx3NnMUpdVrJJ3CoDKnCecW1V5OT8KsNX0Vsm9I9JhF/3X5MAL5fYNl+sx DsHFXyphQGVMU5jbmYfQZUnSl9VE56GpOYh9UCKiRFKlRprghaBAl2rDCup6azs3divD RqV9PX9aQTNTpngnowI5+1Imr9lt3ScX4QEacckGLrw/P1vtWdA2dcMwUH7Kr+N7gmQS o9ww== Received: by 10.236.116.67 with SMTP id f43mr3709877yhh.13.1351803151507; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.142.195 with SMTP id i43ls4496681yhj.4.gmail; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.171.5 with SMTP id t5mr7541544ane.13.1351803150227; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.171.5 with SMTP id t5mr7541543ane.13.1351803150211; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-098-107.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.98.107]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i27si509512yhe.4.2012.11.01.13.52.29; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.132.98.107; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CE715708 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] To Polish fellow lojbanists Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:52:27 -0400 Message-ID: <2156101.XrGZRxVJYE@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <201009300801.24131.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thursday, November 01, 2012 13:00:16 jesushlincoln@gmail.com wrote: > If [p=C9=9B.i] =3D [p=C9=9Bi], what about cmavo stress rules? According t= o CLL 3.3 a > comma is a syllable break, but according to LBG 3.9 a diphthong always > counts as one syllable. On what syllable would [p=C9=9B.i] be stressed, g= iven > that [p=C9=9Bi] only has one syllable to stress? There's no official rule yet about which vowel of a diphthong to stress. I = think=20 that, in a stressed diphthong, the first vowel of a falling diphthong and t= he=20 second vowel of a rising diphthong should be stressed: =C3=A9i, i=C3=B3, u= =C3=AD, i=C3=BA. There is no rule about stressing cmavo, except that, if stressed, a cmavo= =20 before a brivla may need to be separated from it by a pause. E.g. "l=C3=B3k= rat=C3=A1igo"=20 =3D "lokra tai go" (crustacean like iff) but "l=C3=B3.krat=C3=A1igo" =3D "l= o krataigo" (a=20 hawthorn). Pierre --=20 gau do li'i co'e kei do --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.