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Oh yeah!  I used to use {xance rinsa} for that.

-Robin

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 01:22:29PM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> Just wondering if, in all this discussion if (te) rinsa was
> overlooked? For that's all a wave is in context.,
>
>         --gejyspa
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, October 08, 2012 13:41:23 Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > My inclination is type 3 with jikcr- or so.  For that sort of thing,
> > > does it really matter if I draw from the dominant language of the
> > > area, rather than trying to find some kind of "original language"
> > > etymology, since it's American culture that we're duplicating?
> >
> > Clapping, shaking hands, and waving are ancient. When Don Richardson first
> > met
> > Kigo, Hato, and Numu, lowlanders of southwest New Guinea who did not yet
> > know
> > what an airplane was though they had seen them flying, the Sawis and Don
> > both
> > extended their hands in greeting. The Sawis just touch fingers, but it
> > means
> > the same.
> >
> > The high five, though, originated most likely around 1977 in some sport in
> > America. The French Wiktionary has no translation, just a long definition.
> > Several languages' Wikipedia entries use the English phrase as title.
> >
> > On Monday, October 08, 2012 23:06:00 selpa'i wrote:
> > > These are the words I use:
> > >
> > > clap = jalsimgau lo xance
> >
> > Sounds good, and "jalsimgau" has been in jbovlaste for years.
> >
> > > For "wave", you can say "sligau lo xance" or "xance sligau rinsa".
> > >
> > > High five and handshake are mutual actions, so again simxu is needed.
> > >
> > > ko'a simxu lo ka ce'u jalgau lo xance be lo nei lo xance be ce'u
> > > --> xanjalgausi'u = high five
> >
> > This doesn't distinguish a high five from a low five. How about
> > "mumgalco'e"?
> >
> > > ko'a simxu lo ka ce'u jgari lo xance be ce'u lo xance lo xance
> > > --> xanjaisi'u = handshake (doesn't require actual shaking, but some
> > > handshakes are just holding each others' hand for a short time).
> >
> > Two people can xanjaisi'u walking down the street; it isn't necessary a
> > handshake, or a greeting. "xanjairinsa" was entered in jbovlaste a few
> > months
> > ago.
> >
> > Pierre
> > --
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