=C2=A0 Except that commas are only allowed in cmevla, so p= e,i isn't valid as a lojbanic word anyhow. =C2=A0"pei" is jus= t one syllable =C2=A0Pronouncing it as two is liable, IMHO, to be heard as = pe.i or pe'i and should be avoided.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:13 PM, <jesushlincoln@gmail.c= om> wrote:

But the question as to stress is only tangen= tial to the underlying phonotactical issue that it implies--namely, first o= ff, zo pei is defined as being, by definition, one syllable because it cont= ains only a non-syllabic consonant and diphthong, as per LBG 3.9. However, = the allophonic pronunciation zo pe,i [p=C9=9B.i] phonetically contains two = syllables. Because under CLL 3.3 the comma can be pronounced as an apostrop= he in all situations (which is a 'rule' most jbopre to my understan= ding already pretend never existed in the first place), but also under the = same CLL chapter as well as LGB a comma is quote a "syllable break&quo= t; which is pronounced as two distinct syllables, it is clear that zo pei, = if considered phonologically equivalent to zo pe,i, would then have to cons= titute both one and two syllables simultaneously, which doesn't seem to= make much sense. This is not even mentioning the potential confusion with = zo pe'i, with which the main differentiation between it and zo pei seem= s to be moreso the disyllabicity as opposed to the presence or nonpresence = of an [h] phoneme/allophone.

mi'e la'oi jesushlincoln

On Thursday, November 1, 2012 4= :52:31 PM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Thursday, November 01, 2012 13:00:16 jesush...@gmail.com wrote:
> If [p=C9=9B.i] =3D [p=C9=9Bi], what about cmavo stress rules? Acco= rding to CLL 3.3 a
> comma is a syllable break, but according to LBG 3.9 a diphthong al= ways
> counts as one syllable. On what syllable would [p=C9=9B.i] be stre= ssed, given
> that [p=C9=9Bi] only has one syllable to stress?

There's no official rule yet about which vowel of a diphthong to st= ress. I think=20
that, in a stressed diphthong, the first vowel of a falling diphthong a= nd the=20
second vowel of a rising diphthong should be stressed: =C3=A9i, i=C3=B3= , u=C3=AD, i=C3=BA.

There is no rule about stressing cmavo, except that, if stressed, a cma= vo=20
before a brivla may need to be separated from it by a pause. E.g. "= ;l=C3=B3krat=C3=A1igo"=20
=3D "lokra tai go" (crustacean like iff) but "l=C3=B3.kr= at=C3=A1igo" =3D "lo krataigo" (a=20
hawthorn).

Pierre
--=20
gau do li'i co'e kei do

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