Received: from mail-pa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.220.61]:54869) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TV0yz-0000bw-0N; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:30 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id fa11sf3754371pad.16 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GYDO2tK2lyhg2mvHPpFuyYh93ipI6X4/DWkYvYSEwqo=; b=Y7vCbN2aNTa8DqjYSVbR0SNLzHWz7Dh4274fxi+NizAwgNNGw/izIjSZlgkYBUCWP2 LDehXa3UDzL00xjAxPa94RZFiuxDYS0+mIrRc/4eBMMqdN5B9+tbJw1ilREES6Vya2I3 2eGXL3NIeoI4UH3D16dOohSD/lhS8CTFuE/2khTwYLZ++J9LIjmXYtTZFC4jRDII4aPF UpuixgKkAaaR40v9x9TIpMTbXj8rswwKabLUhhmZzeJwG7Cad/9zDRVZV4Ni62DpNFuj E7Z29Qc9JXefoDvWNDrAQ1r4TBpEI7MyPeBjODN8Sh3t4kxvzvLTkVaeWS2zof8izyjB O72w== Received: by 10.236.149.66 with SMTP id w42mr435405yhj.18.1352038518256; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.132.114 with SMTP id n78ls6717889yhi.9.gmail; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.139.18 with SMTP id r18mr1241231ann.26.1352038517682; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.139.18 with SMTP id r18mr1241230ann.26.1352038517666; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-098-107.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.98.107]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7si904260yhj.6.2012.11.04.06.15.16; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.132.98.107; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D09921DC7 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:15:15 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] "jump to" vs. "jump onto" Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4350939.1MPYH7kZPu@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1d7c5585-baa1-4fe4-b52f-c373fdf83ba1@googlegroups.com> References: <1d7c5585-baa1-4fe4-b52f-c373fdf83ba1@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.98.107 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, November 04, 2012 05:24:50 la gleki wrote: > He jumped to the table. > He jumped onto the table. > > .i ko'a mo'u plipe fa'a lo jubme > .i ko'a mo'u plipe lo jubme > > Am I right? Is it how we should understand {plipe}? No. "ko'a plipe fa'a lo jubme" means "He jumped toward the table", except that "toward" denotes the location, not the direction, of the jump. For "He jumped onto the table", I'd say "ko'a plipe lo cpana be lo jubme". Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.