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[213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id z47si3344425eel.0.2012.11.05.10.48.59; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Nov 2012 18:48:28 -0000 Received: from p57A093E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.147.230] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 05 Nov 2012 19:48:28 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/kxfYKC0fkKY5iBmmodWgwB08pNCxuVFsMUJCYaW wYz2gWFJj+Tg62 Message-ID: <509809FB.9020007@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 19:48:27 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation help for a theatre project? References: <509159E7.7050009@gmx.de> <50925F09.1040206@gmx.de> <4f22e472-087b-479c-88c1-98aaecf46681@googlegroups.com> <509270C2.6030602@gmx.de> <5092E423.7030409@gmx.de> <50930A92.7000408@gmx.de> <50931BC0.909@gmx.de> <5097C0E0.6090305@gmx.de> <28e8f953-53dd-4e0c-8b90-73558c32d244@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <28e8f953-53dd-4e0c-8b90-73558c32d244@googlegroups.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 05.11.2012 18:14, schrieb Jyrki Pylv=C3=A4s: > Hello! > > And sorry about the delay: I've been either very busy or very tired the > past couple of days. I've just now had the chance to sit down in peace > to look more closely to the text. And it sure looks impressive! > I don't have the ability to tell anything about the quality of the > translation, so I better leave that to someone who can. But even as a > first draft it's more than I could ever hope for! If I'd live in your > town I'd bring you now loads and loads of alcoholic beverages to thank yo= u. Thanks, though I'd prefer non-alcoholic beverages. :) > For us the next step would be to learn how to pronounce the words (and > sentences) as close to fluent and natural as possible. I found a basic > pronounciation guide , but > in order to help the actor recite the text well, we should "decipher" it > first. For example, to emphasize certain lines it's good to know at > least generally what the meaning of individual words are ("*This* I will > guard" vs. "This *I* will guard" vs. "This I *will* guard" vs. "This I > will *guard*" in English, probably works a bit different in Lojban? Or > does it?). Yes, I know what you mean, and this is of course important. Even though=20 such intonation doesn't technically carry any value in Lojban (it's=20 instead conveyed via words where the specific stress lies), it would=20 probably still feel out of place during a play, if the lines got=20 emphasized too strangely. > Do you think you could help us out also with that? > We're making first attempts on recording parts of the text ("The Chant") > Wednesday afternoon. I'll upload the clip to our website, so you can > comment on how it went. I can easily record everything, but there is one part in particular that=20 I'm not happy with yet, and I need some ideas on how to better translate=20 it. I don't want to have to record the text multiple times. Which part is the Chant? If it's the part after the Allegory, then I=20 could probably record that by wednesday. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku . . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.