Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:41371) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TVRzl-0004Ec-Fu; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:06:10 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q10sf4705656yen.16 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2GR+LAKGHKLHao54LoK2BpBWv2XdvSa0cud+MYecqfs=; b=U7+CW+9UqlbB8vvV0W0KpjYrpQ4ODSH9njzKqsw2qfs0gtlZB4jzHrtDS4W8l0Zqce /jy6xWkjkznSQ1BHRpfihSS7ue+6HzsNsKnbiY+YsbDH66fq9JMntf/ShkQAaHzMHaE2 Nir07A6COuM48psVStaM914aXClvn2tbz6jf4S9V2xMsbtjwhDoHuIkSzYSWAto3nAU6 CwUHpm97Kv+gNMW80xTMCafgZ4/Q9zUpgYZkzXNDph3TxszEiWnZgCM02HUQPJZXu2Cg u9XZhoylYdFmqtd1798VlOj4od7V6DwpESur4WVnXm4Gfde0Bjt/9x7NlICTDSBZHf+e Xbng== Received: by 10.236.180.134 with SMTP id j6mr857404yhm.15.1352142354432; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:05:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.139.40 with SMTP id b28ls8274563yhj.3.gmail; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.159.74 with SMTP id r50mr857669yhk.19.1352142353717; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:05:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:05:53 -0800 (PST) From: selpa'i To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0457f359-c515-465c-8e11-7e12f1d9e6bb@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Translating "as" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_366_9917667.1352142353159" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_366_9917667.1352142353159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This construction has come up a lot more recently, and I am drawing a blank how to translate it. It might not be translatable at all, but maybe someone has a good solution. Here are some examples using this particular usage of "as": (1) I respect you as a friend. (2) I study my dreams as symbolic imagery. (3) We kept this day as a holiday. (4) She appeared to them as a fairy this time. I've tried a few things, among other things {kai} and {fi'o tarmi}, but I'm not content. Suggestions and ideas are welcome. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/eW5-mW44AdUJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_366_9917667.1352142353159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This construction has come up a lot more recently, and I am drawing a blank= how to translate it. It might not be translatable at all, but maybe someon= e has a good solution. Here are some examples using this particular usage o= f "as":

(1) I respect you as a friend.

(2) I study my dreams = as symbolic imagery.

(3) We kept this day as a holiday.

(4) S= he appeared to them as a fairy this time.

I've tried a few things, a= mong other things {kai} and {fi'o tarmi}, but I'm not content. Suggestions = and ideas are welcome.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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