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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:05:53AM -0800, selpa'i wrote: > This construction has come up a lot more recently, and I am drawing a > blank how to translate it. It might not be translatable at all, but maybe > someone has a good solution. Here are some examples using this particular > usage of "as": > > (1) I respect you as a friend. > [...] Content analysis details: (1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.4 BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD 0.6 INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD Invalid Date: header (timezone does not exist) -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.216.61 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:05:53AM -0800, selpa'i wrote: > This construction has come up a lot more recently, and I am drawing a > blank how to translate it. It might not be translatable at all, but maybe > someone has a good solution. Here are some examples using this particular > usage of "as": > > (1) I respect you as a friend. > Isn't that poi? => .i mi sinma do poi pendo -Alan -- .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.