Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:40017) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TVj85-0003bm-Cm; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:56 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f189.google.com with SMTP id 16sf369562obc.16 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:message-id:date :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jgjQuOG5J0DeM5Lsu+cLHUM6zvgVu3+sEYSDoCmREbY=; b=zO+6lHDMW7FK0RjFUsIApOe4fA9BMouOsE2qZMhULXkQHoyVh730YnDuSUvNUXZJ5u EvNsK+yAM4nUCi4cUYGAUJoe9joAH0ZgwhIuENswC3+G6PYT8KjFrIJmtZIQDV0JpZck IisKj2CpMaOsor12BpWeVgxlbrzTy1ko3Z8i91tJN3sOMdi3Dvif0JR3npy/PROTUham hc2ncHiwdRWbUtrHowAouvw6WTQr4+Cea/e49x3roIcXJdjjlFKz3sClc7xv+ChbR5Aa fcwNCAhkwyd+7RTI15lUfTj5Zx2tplDKtjS9hwgq1g9CcPEkj2au1MZQg28unLDWx38K DEbw== Received: by 10.224.200.132 with SMTP id ew4mr230348qab.7.1352208218838; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:38 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.178.10 with SMTP id bk10ls437706qcb.3.gmail; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.105.205 with SMTP id u13mr798981qao.6.1352208217385; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.105.205 with SMTP id u13mr798979qao.6.1352208217367; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qc0-f198.google.com (mail-qc0-f198.google.com [209.85.216.198]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x31si4645558qco.0.2012.11.06.05.23.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.198; Received: by mail-qc0-f198.google.com with SMTP id e13so647086qcs.9 for ; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.27.164 with SMTP id u4mr290888vdg.8.1352208217229; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:23:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20cf307ac39d734c6804cdd382fd@google.com> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:23:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'i} vs. {fa'a} From: rdentato@gmail.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ac39d734c5404cdd382fa X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The difference seems to be in the starting point: “zo'i” and “ze'o” refer to direction towards or away from the speaker's location, or whatever the origin is. “fa'a” and “to'o” refer to direction towards or away from some other point. 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