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Now I wished I understood Finnish! The pictures are very impressive,=20
> makes me very eager to see the final play.=20
>

We have a seat reserved for you if happen to find your to Helsinki! =20
=20

> Yes, that's a very common problem for speakers from Scandinavia. Are=20
> there other things that are particularly difficult for Finnish speakers?=
=20
>

I think just the "s" sounds, especially when there's two different ones in=
=20
the same word. Since the everyday spoken Finnish has only s (s) and ts (z),=
=20
it's very hard for a Finnish speaker to make distinction between =C5=BE (=
=CA=92) and=20
=C5=A1 (=CA=83) - and to compare those to s. That's the only problem in my =
opinion,=20
and also the reason why different s's vary in our recording.=20
Here's a good, short guide to Finnish pronunciation, if you're interested:=
=20
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/suomi/fon.html    =20
=20

> Overall, it's a very nice recording, in my opinion. :)=20
> I'm not sure I can comment much on the acting, since you know much=20
> better than me what kind of performance you are going for. I would never=
=20
> have guessed from just reading the text that Godot would get so into it.=
=20
>

Thanks a lot! I also think that the recording was succesful. It was also=20
great fun to play with the sound and rhythm of Lojban. It has a very unique=
=20
sound as a language, I think. And I'm also glad that it's mostly=20
understandable!
We're continuing with the recordings on Tuesday and we hope to record the=
=20
rest of the text then. I wonder if you have the chance to make us another=
=20
audio before that? Your example tape was really helpful in finding the=20
right tone. I'm also writing a phonetic guide for Lorenz for the recording,=
=20
since we now know a bit more about how Lojban is pronunced.

We opened the official website for the project yesterday:=20
http://ihmisentila.fi/
There's not much stuff there yet, but it's growing...

J.=20
=20

>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i=20
>
> --=20
> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo=20
>
> do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u=20
>     .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u=20
> ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu=20
>     .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi=20
> gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi=20
>     .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku=20
>
>
> .=20
>
>
> .=20
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<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0=
.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Now I wished I underst=
ood Finnish! The pictures are very impressive,=20
<br>makes me very eager to see the final play.
<br></blockquote><div><br>We have a seat reserved for you if happen to find=
 your to Helsinki!&nbsp; <br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left: 1ex;">Yes, that's a very common problem for speakers from S=
candinavia. Are=20
<br>there other things that are particularly difficult for Finnish speakers=
?
<br></blockquote><div><br>I think just the "s" sounds, especially when ther=
e's two different ones in the same word. Since the everyday spoken Finnish =
has only s (s) and ts (z), it's very hard for a Finnish speaker to make dis=
tinction between =C5=BE (=CA=92) and =C5=A1 (=CA=83) - and to compare those=
 to s. That's the only problem in my opinion, and also the reason why diffe=
rent s's vary in our recording. <br>Here's a good, short guide to Finnish p=
ronunciation, if you're interested: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/suomi/fo=
n.html&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left: 1ex;">Overall, it's a very nice recording, in my opinion. =
:)
<br>I'm not sure I can comment much on the acting, since you know much=20
<br>better than me what kind of performance you are going for. I would neve=
r=20
<br>have guessed from just reading the text that Godot would get so into it=
.
<br></blockquote><div><br>Thanks a lot! I also think that the recording was=
 succesful. It was also great fun to play with the sound and rhythm of Lojb=
an. It has a very unique sound as a language, I think. And I'm also glad th=
at it's mostly understandable!<br>We're continuing with the recordings on T=
uesday and we hope to record the rest of the text then. I wonder if you hav=
e the chance to make us another audio before that? Your example tape was re=
ally helpful in finding the right tone. I'm also writing a phonetic guide f=
or Lorenz for the recording, since we now know a bit more about how Lojban =
is pronunced.<br><br>We opened the official website for the project yesterd=
ay: http://ihmisentila.fi/<br>There's not much stuff there yet, but it's gr=
owing...<br><br>J. <br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: =
1ex;">
<br>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
<br>
<br>--=20
<br>pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
<br>
<br>do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u
<br>ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi
<br>gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku
<br>
<br>
<br>.
<br>
<br>
<br>.
<br></blockquote>

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