2012/11/10 Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com>

* I really must say that the current lojban.org je'a looks rather dull :(

2012/11/10 Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool.o= gi@gmail.com>
I really like the idea of having a better website for lojban .ausai
I= 9;m not a computer programmer, I often feel a bit limited when I discuss th= ings in english (no one out there who can translate from swedish to english= for me? ;), I don't have much time (but I really like constructing luj= vos (systematically; subject by subject), so I'm probably going to cont= ribute in that way a loot in the future).

Anyhow, I've just got some proposals for your project. The most of = it sounds awesome, but here what comes to my mind:
* I think it's im= portant with a very esthetic, clear and distinct layout, so visitors easily= find the information they're looking for and also having a good impres= sion of the lojban language (and community). I really must say that the cur= rent lojban.org doesn't looks rather dull :(

* What I really would like to have is a list of all lojban projects, cu= rrent status (completed, almost completed but open for editing, suggested b= ut not yet started etc), project last updated-info, click to become a membe= r in the respectively project group, project cathegories like translation p= rojects, technical projects, social projects, vocabulary, vote for how impo= rtant you think each project is etc. It is very important=A0 to get an over= view of the status of the whole lojban devolopment I think.

* Forum with distinct cathegories/subjects, instead of the mailing list= .

I don't think if all this is possible to work out, but this is= my vision of what the lojbanic internet community ba se binxo.

How do you say "good luck" in lojban?

mu'omi'e jon= gausib goi sebastian

2012/11/7 = la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>

Translate Extension has been tuned up (ki= 9;e entot !).

Using this extension you can translate the conte= nt of any page into other languages.

If we ever move the CLL, Wave lessons and L4B to this wiki you will be= able to translate them chunk by chunk to other languages that you speak.
Note that if the source is changed the extension notices this and = inform that the translation to another language is out of date.

This is how we can put speakers =A0of all languages (not only English)= in equal conditions when learning Lojban.

On T= uesday, November 6, 2012 9:49:10 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:
The wiki has moved to=A0http://mw.lojban.org/

On Monday, November 5, 2012 5:22:48 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:Now Mediawiki has full support for localising= any given page to another language. The solution is not ideal, it uses a s= imple template (anyway, ki'ecai .brendyn. for letting know about about = this simplest tool)

http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/T= emplate:Ralju

If you think the template can be made a bit nicer plase= let me know.
Anyway, now nothing can stop us from starting to re= ally work on this wiki.

On Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:5= 9:32 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:57:37 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 20= 12 12:15:54 PM UTC+4, Marica Odagaki wrote:

.uisai I'm all for adopting MediaWiki as the official wiki.
<= div>
> Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me= what you need. Let's make it better than the old one. Together.

I have a few suggestions to make this project bet= ter yet:

A. Set short-term goals.
- 1. C= reate overview pages targeted at newcomers/learning & teaching/etc.
- 2. Go over all the TikiWiki pages and migrate them where necessary.<= /div>
=A0 =A0 =A0Last time I checked, there are 2357 of them.

B. Broadly categorize pages.
- Abo= ut: introduction to the language and organizations

- Guides: learning materials, faq
- Documentation: grammar d= ocumentation/dictionary/baseline definition
- Writings: Lo= jbanic writings/multimedia/games
- Encyclopedia of related topics=

- News
- Projects
- Participation guides
- People
- Proposals

(Discussions shoul= d happen in the "Talk" side of the page.)

These are gleaned from a wiki pages categorization project
I= 'd been tackling by myself:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0A= qPDUjCrM_cfdDI5NzBIMzhCRHZJWGF2Tzl4R245N3c

Giving the wiki a minimum structure will help grow it w= ithout falling into a chaotic state.

C. Define what goes into the wiki, and state it in the wiki.
- All of the above (in B.)
- Questions should be asked in the mai= ling-list first.

Do these sound all= good?

go'isai

Especially "minimum structure". I don't want <= a href=3D"http://lojban.org/tiki" target=3D"_blank">lojban.org/tiki to be shut down.

AND NOW IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
Robin INSTALLED ME= DIAWIKI ON HIS SERVER. THE CURRENT ADDRESS IS
http://= vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/ralju_ckupau<= span style=3D"padding-right:16px;width:16px;min-height:16px">

Problems that I can see so far:
1. I can'= t create folders in the root of mediawiki installation. And probably theref= ore impossible to upload files.

Solved.=A0

2. Not only I s= hould have sftp access to that root folder (who is familiar with MediaWiki?= Whom can we trust?)

3. I haven't found appropriate extension to localise wiki pa= ges on the fly like it is done in Tiki.

Translate Extension installed.=A0

I hope Robin will =A0fix the first probl= em himself.

As for the third problem I'm waiti= ng for suggestions.

mu'o

On Thursday= , September 27, 2012 1:23:10 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote:

On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20:20 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:Thank you for the clarification.
What= does the logo in the upper left part of the screen stand for?

Well, just 25 years of Lojban, nothing more.
= =A0
Oh, and the opening pag= e is currently filled with some non-Lojban text. Maybe the standard propaga= nda ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la%20lojban.%20mo?no_bl= =3Dy ) would be fitting?

iesk

Please, develop = the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it better= than the old one. Together.