Does this mean we're officially moving to MediaWiki?

<= /blockquote>

No!

Is it ok to migrate an entire page fr= om TikiWiki, leaving a "This page has moved to ..." message there?

No! Copy them, don't move them for now. D= on't touch the old wiki for now.

The answer is pre= tty simple. If we show that we are active and able to improve the quality o= f lojbanic wiki

then I'm sure we will officially move. What lojba= nistan consists of if not of active jbopre?

But if= we appear to be lazy, inactive then the answer is "do not rock the boat! L= eave everything as it is!"

However, as at least two active people= (lindar and J Camaron) were dissapointed with the current wiki

I= wanna urge you to develop this wiki so that normal people, not only geeks = can start styudying and enjoying this language.

<= /div>

P.S. If anybody can theoretically migrate the whole Twiki to Medi= awiki using some script please inform me. Pages for geeks can always be mov= ed under "Discussions" tab as it is accepted in Wikipedia. (Twiki lacks thi= s feature).

The wiki has moved to http://mw.lojban.org/

= On Monday, November 5, 2012 5:22:48 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:
Now Mediawiki has full support for localising any= given page to another language. The solution is not ideal, it uses a simpl= e template (anyway, ki'ecai .brendyn. for letting know about about this sim= plest tool)

http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/= mw/index.php/Template:Ralju

If you think = the template can be made a bit nicer plase let me know.
Anyway, n= ow nothing can stop us from starting to really work on this wiki.

On Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:59:32 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 201= 2 4:57:37 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:15:54 PM UTC+4, Marica Odagaki = wrote:
.uisai I'm all for adopt= ing MediaWiki as the official wiki.

> Please, d= evelop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it bet= ter than the old one. Together.

I have a few s= uggestions to make this project better yet:

A. Set= short-term goals.
- 1. Create overview pages targeted at newcome= rs/learning & teaching/etc.
- 2. Go over all the TikiWiki pag= es and migrate them where necessary.
Last tim= e I checked, there are 2357 of them.

B. Broadly categorize pages.
- About: introduction to the langu= age and organizations
- Guides: learning materials, faq
- Documentation: grammar documentation/dictionary/baseline definition=

- Writings: Lojbanic writings/multimedia/games

- Encyc= lopedia of related topics

- News

- Projects

-= Participation guides

- People

- Proposals

(Discussions should happen in the "Talk" side of the page.)

These are gleaned from a wiki pages categorization p= roject

I'd been tackling by myself:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key= =3D0AqPDUjCrM_cfdDI5NzBIMzhCRHZJWGF2Tzl4R245N3c

Giving the wiki a minimum structure will help grow it with= out falling into a chaotic state.

C= . Define what goes into the wiki, and state it in the wiki.

- All= of the above (in B.)

- Questions should be asked in the mailing-= list first.

Do these sound all good= ?

go'isai

Especially "minimum structure". I don't want lojban.org/tiki to be shut down.

AND NOW IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

Robin INSTALLED MEDIAWIKI = ON HIS SERVER. THE CURRENT ADDRESS IS

http://vrici.lo= jban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/ralju_ckupau

Problems that I can see so far:

1. I can't create folders i= n the root of mediawiki installation. And probably therefore impossible to = upload files.

Solved.

2. Not only I shoul= d have sftp access to that root folder (who is familiar with MediaWiki? Who= m can we trust?)
3. I haven't found appropriate extension to = localise wiki pages on the fly like it is done in Tiki.

<= div>

Translate Extension installed.

I hope Robin w= ill fix the first problem himself.

As for th= e third problem I'm waiting for suggestions.

<= /div>

mu'o

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:23:10 PM UT= C+9, la gleki wrote:

On Wedn= esday, September 26, 2012 10:20:20 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
What does the log= o in the upper left part of the screen stand for?
Wel= l, just 25 years of Lojban, nothing more.

Oh, and the opening page is currently fille= d with some non-Lojban text. Maybe the standard propaganda ( http= ://www.lojban.org/tiki/la%20lojban.%20mo?no_bl=3Dy ) would be fitt= ing?
iesk

Please, = develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it be= tter than the old one. Together.

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