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<6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4MlpPdIHrw2OPvpFL9hITFC9RVXYE3ejh5AUxCVZzDFnBtpcy62clgn9WroTxWjV05iwa X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.223.169 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / I like the suggestion of a {{cleanup}} template. I've been working on general workflow templates over at OpenCog: http://wiki.opencog.org/w/Curation And they are similar to this idea. You can mark a page as a {{stub}}, mark it as work in progress ({{WIP}})* write it until it's a {{proposal}}, and then {{withdraw}} it if it's a bad idea or tag it with a {{version}} if it becomes a feature. Later work may cause it to be {{obsolete}} and if you don't keep it in sync it might get {{out of date}}. These templates also take care to register the pages in the appropriate namespaces, so a curator can see which pages are in which categories. I like workflow processes like this because any effort has a 'long tail' of incomplete, partial, bad, and promising ideas that don't quite fit into the existing structure of the wiki. mi'e .alyn. * = adding that is on my list, it doesn't exist yet. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:29:43AM -0800, vruxir wrote: > I'm of the opinion that it would benefit a future Wiki if it has imported > ALL the contents from the TWiki. If that can be done automatically, then > hopefully there's also a way to automatically place a "Cleanup" box at the > top of each imported article, saying something to the effect of: > "This article was imported from the old lojban.org Tiki Wiki and may not > meet the content and style guidelines of this Wiki. Please see our > _content and style guidelines_ and clean up this article. If you feel that > the article is named inappropriately, the article can be moved to a new > name. Do not remove this tag until the article is up to standards." > Then you'll want to have some content and style guidelines, probably > inspired by Wikipedia or other successful Wikis. > (When you move an article to a new name, the old name becomes a redirect; > if you replace the old name with a new article, you can insert tags at the > top of the article with suggestions to visit the moved article. See, for > example, the top of the article [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation > ) > If there is a debate about what a word really MEANS, then I would think > the article about that word needs to report the differing viewpoints > (including CLL's viewpoint) and what level of support the viewpoints > have. Then the actual continuing debate over the meaning of the word could > go in the Discussion tab, OR if it's possible to create another tab with a > more appropriate name (e.g. "Grammar Debate"), do that and leave the > Discussion tab for talking about the quality of the article itself. > By importing all the TWiki content to the new Wiki (and marking them all > for "cleanup"), you can safely redirect people from the TWiki to the new > Wiki if/when it has been demonstrated that the new Wiki is superior, and > you don't have to worry about losing important discussions. > mu'o mi'e vruxir > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:16:51 PM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 04:21:14AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > * We're making a fresh start, so why not keep it clean? > > To be contrary a moment, > > I've put a lot of work in writing and organizing TWiki pages. I'm > happy to have them migrated to mediawiki, but I'm more-or-less being > told that the work I've done on TWiki isn't valuable ("fresh start"). > Any work I would do on the new wiki would need to access/refer to/ > modify the pages I have worked on than are in TWiki. > > I'd love to have them imported to Mediawiki, but as things stand I feel > like work I've put into the wiki is more-or-less being deleted (you can > call it archiving if you want) and I'm wondering what the heck I would > be expected to do with the new wiki when all the content I want to work > on is in the old wiki. > > mi'e .alyn. > -- > .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > [2]https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/01evXYCxTw8J. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > References > > Visible links > 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation > 2. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/01evXYCxTw8J -- .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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