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Or, with regard to
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/robin/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban,+Math,+mek=
so,+and+bridi+cmaci,
how about rapli pilji ?

Using ni'ai
li pai fi'u re rapli pliji lo porsi befi loni'ai se pliji loni'ai pliji li
vo li ny li ny kei loni'ai se sumji loni'ai pliji li vo li ny li ny kei li
pa

In standard lojban
li pai fi'u re rapli pliji lo porsi befi lo se pliji belo pliji be li vo
bei li ny bei li ny be'o bei lo se sumji be lo pliji be li vo bei li ny bei
li ny be'o bei li pa

In standard-ish english
Pi on two is the infinite product of the sequence whose terms are quotient
of 4 times n squared and 4 times n squared minus one

In latex
\pi / 2 =3D \Pi_{n=3D1}^\infty \frac{4n^2}{4n^2 -1}

Yeah, maths in lojban is kinda a mess.

-- Ross

On 14 November 2012 14:23, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 21:50:30 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> > What is the Lojban word for product of a series, symbolized by a capita=
l
> > pi? It would be analogous to this word for summation:
> >
> > si'i (VUhU4) =3D sigma summation trinary mathematical operator: [sigma
> > summation of a using variable b over range c]
>
> I don't see one. How about "piu'i" or "pui'i" or "pai'i"?
>
> Pierre
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Or, with regard to <a href=3D"http://www.digitalkingdom.org/robin/tiki-inde=
x.php?page=3DLojban,+Math,+mekso,+and+bridi+cmaci">http://www.digitalkingdo=
m.org/robin/tiki-index.php?page=3DLojban,+Math,+mekso,+and+bridi+cmaci</a> =
, how about rapli pilji ?<br>

<br>Using ni&#39;ai<br>li pai fi&#39;u re rapli pliji lo porsi befi loni&#3=
9;ai se pliji loni&#39;ai pliji li vo li ny li ny kei loni&#39;ai se sumji =
loni&#39;ai pliji li vo li ny li ny kei li pa<br><br>In standard lojban<br>

li pai fi&#39;u re rapli pliji lo porsi befi lo se pliji belo pliji be li v=
o bei li ny bei li ny be&#39;o bei lo se sumji be lo pliji be li vo bei li =
ny bei li ny be&#39;o bei li pa<br><br>In standard-ish english<br>Pi on two=
 is the infinite product of the sequence whose terms are quotient of 4 time=
s n squared and 4 times n squared minus one<br>

<br>In latex<br>\pi / 2 =3D \Pi_{n=3D1}^\infty \frac{4n^2}{4n^2 -1}<br><br>=
Yeah, maths in lojban is kinda a mess.<br><br>-- Ross<br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On 14 November 2012 14:23, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Tuesday, November 13, 2=
012 21:50:30 MorphemeAddict wrote:<br>
&gt; What is the Lojban word for product of a series, symbolized by a capit=
al<br>
&gt; pi? It would be analogous to this word for summation:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; si&#39;i (VUhU4) =3D sigma summation trinary mathematical operator: [s=
igma<br>
&gt; summation of a using variable b over range c]<br>
<br>
</div>I don&#39;t see one. How about &quot;piu&#39;i&quot; or &quot;pui&#39=
;i&quot; or &quot;pai&#39;i&quot;?<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
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