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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:55:31 AM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
>
> There is a =91bug=92 (or inconvenience): The wiki seems to be set up in=
=20
> English.

=20

> So, the menu is in English if you are not logged in.=20

Hmm.... this is definitely a bug (or may be the wiki takes settings from=20
your browser settings?)
=20

> And, what=92s worse, it seems that to-be-translated pages can only be=20
> created in English, so the software considers all other language versions=
=20
> as translations from the English, which is probably very bad, and certain=
ly=20
> bad looking in what I think/hope is going to be a Lojbanic wiki for=20
> everybody.
>

If only lojbanists are contributors this won't be a great problem. pe'i=20
there must be some default language. What if the default language is=20
lojban? Would that suit you?

>
> For example, http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ralju_ckupau/nds is the=20
> result of me trying to translate=20
> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ralju_ckupau/jbo (help appreciated!), but=
=20
> the software thinks it is a translation of=20
> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ralju_ckupau (which is also stupidly=20
> named, as you can see).
>
> (So, if I want to create a page in any language, do I have to set up a=20
> dummy page in English first and then make the real page a fake translatio=
n?)
>
> Sorry, I know near nothing about Mediawiki, let alone that translation=20
> extension. Maybe there is no problem at all, and I just don=92t get it.
>
> -iesk
>
> Le lundi 24 septembre 2012 19:47:47 UTC+2, la gleki a =E9crit :
>>
>> Basically it's MediaWiki (the same engine as in Wikipedia). I also=20
>> installed rss and wysiwyg (for editing a-la text processor) plugins.
>> Let's test it.
>> What would you like to see in it? What to change in formatting of pages?
>>
>> http://www.lojban.overt-ops.com/index.php?title=3Dralju_ckupau
>>
>

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<br><br>On Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:55:31 AM UTC+4, iesk wrote:<block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-le=
ft: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">There is a =91bug=92 (or inconvenien=
ce): The wiki seems to be set up in English.</blockquote><div>&nbsp;</div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bord=
er-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"> So, the menu is in English if =
you are not logged in. </blockquote><div>Hmm.... this is definitely a bug (=
or may be the wiki takes settings from your browser settings?)</div><div>&n=
bsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left:=
 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">And, what=92s worse,=
 it seems that to-be-translated pages can only be created in English, so th=
e software considers all other language versions as translations from the E=
nglish, which is probably very bad, and certainly bad looking in what I thi=
nk/hope is going to be a Lojbanic wiki for everybody.<br></blockquote><div>=
<br></div><div>If only lojbanists are contributors this won't be a great pr=
oblem. pe'i there must be some default language. What if the default langua=
ge is lojban? Would that suit you?</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft: 1ex;"><br>For example, <a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ralju_=
ckupau/nds" target=3D"_blank">http://mw.lojban.org/index.<wbr>php/ralju_cku=
pau/nds</a> is the result of me trying to translate <a href=3D"http://mw.lo=
jban.org/index.php/ralju_ckupau/jbo" target=3D"_blank">http://mw.lojban.org=
/index.<wbr>php/ralju_ckupau/jbo</a> (help appreciated!), but the software =
thinks it is a translation of <a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ral=
ju_ckupau" target=3D"_blank">http://mw.lojban.org/index.<wbr>php/ralju_ckup=
au</a> (which is also stupidly named, as you can see).<br><br>(So, if I wan=
t to create a page in any language, do I have to set up a dummy page in Eng=
lish first and then make the real page a fake translation?)<br><br>Sorry, I=
 know near nothing about Mediawiki, let alone that translation extension. M=
aybe there is no problem at all, and I just don=92t get it.<br><br>-iesk<br=
><br>Le lundi 24 septembre 2012 19:47:47 UTC+2, la gleki a =E9crit&nbsp;:<b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Basically it's MediaWiki (the sa=
me engine as in Wikipedia). I also installed rss and wysiwyg (for editing a=
-la text processor) plugins.</div>Let's test it.<div>What would you like to=
 see in it? What to change in formatting of pages?</div><div><br></div><div=
><a href=3D"http://www.lojban.overt-ops.com/index.php?title=3Dralju_ckupau"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://www.lojban.overt-ops.<wbr>com/index.php?title=3Dr=
alju_<wbr>ckupau</a><br></div></blockquote></blockquote>

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