However, if it is unnecessary for the no= n-language-suffixed page to have any content (i.e. every page in every lang= uage has some "/lang" ending on it), it would still have to have some title= in the URL in order for the "/lang" versions to exist, and it would have t= o automatically redirect to a default language instead of having content.

Presumably Lojban is the only neutral option, so I = guess either:

1) every base page should be UR= L-titled in lojban, and the non-suffixed version of the page is written in = lojban, and there are no "/jbo" pages

2) every base = page should be URL-titled in lojban, and the non-suffixed version of the pa= ge should redirect to "itself/<lang>" where <lang> depends on y= our user settings, defaulting to "/jbo", OR it redirects to the same langua= ge as the page which linked you there, if you followed a link (though I thi= nk internal hyperlinks should include the appropriate "/lang" ending in mos= t cases).

In both cases, the URL title would be in= lojban, but within the content of each translated page, it would show the = title in its own language; this already seems to be the case now (i.e. "ral= ju_ckupau/nds" is called "H=C3=B6=C3=B6ftsiet"; "ralju_ckupau/ru" is called= "=D0=93=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=8F =D1=81=D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BD= =D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B0").

Make sense?

mu'o mi'e vruxir

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 = 11:20:40 AM UTC-5, vruxir wrote:

cunso ckupau" (random page) br= ings me to some English pages, some lojban pages.

mu'o
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:18:44 AM UTC-5, vruxir wrote:Now the default page, when you visit = ;= http://mw.lojban.org/, is http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Ralju= _Ckupau

Note the capital letters. The text of that p= age is nonexistent. However, returning to http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/ralju_ckupau -- that page is still the English one, and tha= t+/jbo is the lojban one.

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:16:04 AM= UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPD: Hmm ...= I just saw the following string in LocalSettings.php
$wgLangua= geCode =3D "en";

I immediately changed it to
$wgLanguageCode =3D "jbo";

<= div>Now the default language of non-logged-in users is lojban.
So= ... how does Translate Extension treat pages now? Are they now in lojban by= default?

On Thursday, November 15, 2012= 3:35:57 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

Well, I won't defend Translate Extension. If someone can fix that plea= se do.

On Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:09:39 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think it would be best if there we= re no default or base language. If ther mu=C3=9Ft be, then it should be Loj= ban rather than English.

I don't See btw how enforcing English as the default language of the wi= ki pages could *not* be a probl=C3=A8m ...

Also please accept my apology for the wording 'stupidly named'. All I m= eant is, '<Lojban title>' for the English page and '<Lojban title&= gt;/jbo' for the Lojban Page is no good solution, obviously.

Sorry for Bad typing.

Iesk

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