Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:52215) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TZUwt-0005YF-4l; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:56 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf2075272qca.16 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p4TczvhRo0vNYqjxElgGJP1afxda3fjK5IphoBFBH70=; b=VC+HovCblsGCiiWG3Ae0Zg4Eb6SkzQewMbKOpsF16LmAecMo6aOMPPzkr1AJz4bSeD l+lqvY0XdeKA9iD65Zqk56T4HjLU0642D8DlOwwSLq0YWomIwWT/Y5gGIxxJ+gO3Rl1J yM8gATzc4D0h22XxV2IJxDSB194qdhPR2D0YJsd/HpZyE7ZVIk8W/48iC2NRTNMk8p+i WeEjdzRleH8LqW1RrrrsBWhpgLNA7n0JPhYqvL5x2/71EKy54P3LkRK5N7Ja7L6OQpAM kKbGeOxuqQg29p3TPyshO50Yu2g4y+bXXj+4HGVzQmfWF3CRkah7ysZPYUYDqKtulruz /mkQ== Received: by 10.50.106.225 with SMTP id gx1mr74835igb.8.1353107020271; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.190.163 with SMTP id gr3ls1453044igc.17.canary; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.86.100 with SMTP id o4mr1194644paz.2.1353107019217; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.86.100 with SMTP id o4mr1194643paz.2.1353107019207; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id m8si459570pav.2.2012.11.16.15.03.38; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Nov 2012 23:03:37 -0000 Received: from p5DDC45D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [93.220.69.214] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2012 00:03:37 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18w9C5OfPUweJuTW3ocm4xkAfc18cxV2avfUv9tyI +dx2S3vCPoBC32 Message-ID: <50A6C64E.8050008@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:03:42 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] experimental cmavo {ko'oi} of UI6 as imperativity References: <50A6A30E.8020804@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Am 16.11.2012 23:32, schrieb Jacob Errington: > I created LAhE, and to be perfectly honest, I am discontent with the > actual choice of word for it. It should have been something like ko'oi > or ko'ei. I also agree that its status as a LAhE is quite silly. Rather > than recycle a word that was poorly chosen to begin with, Yeah I agree. xa'e might not be the best choice. > let's use > something that will actually look like an attitudinal. How about {.e'ei} > ? It looks like {.ei} for "obligation" but it will mean "command". > Seeing as usage of xa'e is very limited, I simply propose that we remove > it entirely. LAhE-based imperatives is silly. Or ko'oi. At least it resembles ko. I'd say we shouldn't use up .V'VV=20 cmavo yet. I think the current wave of new cmavo should use only CV'VV=20 and CVV'V. This will make it easier in the future to see during which=20 era of Lojban history a cmavo was created. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi gi'e s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku . . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.