Received: from mail-yh0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:53939) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta4gF-0006Xd-Qn; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:13:14 -0800 Received: by mail-yh0-f61.google.com with SMTP id o21sf1578412yho.16 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=2S9KfziBhI9WXQAHIq/B1QmD0cNWHeWv3Idd10WC6nA=; b=jhnR4+H5ZRczRSea4BiYCEZdZIkTLRBs8gAUdPx2EEKLaNjdEiTL289Bn9ddbL9tIN Uv1ji5bnU+FI+VKbwalQcMUQTESRdURVWTz6RmoOPn/I0od2CSR26iWwLbKcnrlCMwEq o9J0DBAoBe75t/YfAbxwajNaTwwNwQEUWm2yU4SLW/VzH+ZErhhX2prGkYhrUzIET9xn oPXL8NqZjmZhBbXOj8+dXeaSpvwUmw1hzYAGh2qQ87jHG0Y+qLfQ87BQzinj4j3dPOT8 +5f+TA2wtO5AR51QArhXac/PYQnEFC+4TqifjgYqUKHTIcq6Ft0OD3k4rVFpadR4Vq6Q cmHg== Received: by 10.50.91.230 with SMTP id ch6mr1378215igb.9.1353244372982; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.155.193 with SMTP id vy1ls2164748igb.19.gmail; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.84.98 with SMTP id x2mr2146093pay.15.1353244372495; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.84.98 with SMTP id x2mr2146092pay.15.1353244372484; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id yl8si1124631pbc.1.2012.11.18.05.12.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta4g7-0006XX-6Y for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:51 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:12:51 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL 1.1/ CLL 2.0. What is your opinion in the current situation? Message-ID: <20121118131251.GG28469@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <9cc8cae2-03f8-48c6-85f0-c77cb5d49e35@googlegroups.com> <20121116164912.GH25271@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <02dd10e6-4b48-498b-9e34-9eaf37b3c3e7@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02dd10e6-4b48-498b-9e34-9eaf37b3c3e7@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:46:32AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 8:49:14 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 06:39:37AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > > There are two possible scenarios. > > > > > > 1. We wait until someone finishes CLL 1.1 published on > > > http://github.com/dag/cll > > > > > > 2. We start writing CLL 2.0 now and only then convert it to a > > > publishable format > > > > Who the hell is "we"? What do "we" intend to change, exactly? > > > > We are the community, those that would like to advance lojban to a > finished state. Really? Because I've been begging for help for something like 5 years, in a wide variety of endeavours, and mostly gotten nothing. But if you want to go write some detailed modifications to the current CLL, you should feel free, and if they're any good I'll use them. Just don't make it look official. -Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.