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What is your opinion in the current situation?) From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f503ba66a8fca04cef02076 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I would not be shocked that much by the lack of a page numbered index. I don't use them very often. Using section numbers (as xorxes suggested) would be perfect once the section number is on each page. 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Does the cll-docbook repository on gitorious contain the latest version of docbook files? On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:24:19PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Robin Lee Powell > > wrote: > > > > > > How much difference does it make if the average length of a > > > section is, say, 3 pages? > > > > If the sections are easy to find, it makes little difference. The > > average length of a section for CLL seems to be less than 2 pages > > anyway. > > *nod* > > > In the current edition sections are hard to find, because the > > chapter number only appears at the beginning of each chapter, not > > in every page, and section numbers don't include the chapter > > number, which is a pain. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next > > edition. > > OHGODYES. > > -Robin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --e89a8f503ba66a8fca04cef02076 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would not be shocked that much by the lack of a=A0 page numbered index. I= don't use them very often. Using section numbers (as xorxes suggested)= would be perfect once the section number is on each page.

My 2c

remod.

P.S. Does the cll-docbook repository on gitorious contain= the latest version of docbook files?






On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:28 A= M, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> = wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07= :24:19PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkin= gdom.org> wrote:
> >
> > How much difference does it make if the average length of a
> > section is, say, 3 pages?
>
> If the sections are easy to find, it makes little difference. The
> average length of a section for CLL seems to be less than 2 pages
> anyway.

*nod*

> In the current edition sections are hard to find, because the
> chapter number only appears at the beginning of each chapter, not
> in every page, and section numbers don't include the chapter
> number, which is a pain. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next
> edition.

OHGODYES.

-Robin

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