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On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote:
>
> On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote:
>>
>> - setting the default (= menu display and so on) language to Lojban 
>> (logged in users may be able to change it for themselves);
>>
>
> Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban to people who 
> doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better to have English 
> as the default interface language?
>
> It seems to be the most used language on the internet:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet
>

A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai>
English is not the most common language on the planet (my updated method<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2RhI/discussion>of generating gismu uses data from here 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) 
and English is No 2.

I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but I hope I can 
fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your browser (for 
those who are not logged in).

Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us to write 
articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbanic skills 
(this idea was mentioned in IRC by *la tsani ku .io*)

*Now some news.*

   1. *CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but others might do).*
   2. *Semantic Mediawiki added and installed.*
   3. *http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets added.*
   4. *Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled.*
   



 

>
>
> mu'o
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<br><br>On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 P=
M UTC+9, iesk wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;mar=
gin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">- setting the d=
efault (=3D menu display and so on) language to Lojban (logged in users may=
 be able to change it for themselves);<br></blockquote><div><br></div>Since=
 the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban to&nbsp;people who doe=
sn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better to&nbsp;have Englis=
h as the default interface language?<div><br></div><div>It seems to be the =
most used language on the internet:</div><div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedi=
a.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wiki=
pedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Languages_used_on_the_Internet</a></div></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>A quick and short reply from me &lt;.ienaisai&gt;</div><d=
iv>English is not the most common language on the planet (<a href=3D"https:=
//groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/QdZb0Cg2RhI/discussion">my updated metho=
d</a> of generating gismu uses data from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/=
List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) and English is No 2.</div><=
div><br></div><div>I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this=
 but I hope I can fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your=
 browser (for those who are not logged in).</div><div><br></div><div>Making=
 Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us to write articles=
 in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbanic skills (this idea =
was mentioned in IRC by <i>la tsani ku .io</i>)</div><div><br></div><div><b=
>Now some news.</b></div><div><ol><li><b>CavendishMW skin added (though I d=
on't like it but others might do).</b><br></li><li><b>Semantic Mediawiki ad=
ded and installed.</b><br></li><li><b>http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extensi=
on:HTMLets added.</b><br></li><li><b>Autocapitalisation of the name of arti=
cles disabled.</b><br></li></ol></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b=
r></div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><=
div><br><div><br></div><div>mu'o</div></div></blockquote><div>&nbsp;</div>

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