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Content preview: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote: > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote: > > - setting the default (= menu display and so on) language to Lojban > (logged in users may be able to change it for themselves); > > Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban to people who > doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better to have > English as the default interface language? > It seems to be the most used language on the internet: > [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet > > A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai> > English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my updated > method of generating gismu uses data from here > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) > and English is No 2. > I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but I hope I can > fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your browser (for > those who are not logged in). > Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us to write > articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbanic skills > (this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io) > Now some news. > > 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but others might do). > 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed. > 3. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets added. > 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled. > [...] Content analysis details: (2.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.4 BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD BUG6152_INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD 0.6 INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD Invalid Date: header (timezone does not exist) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote: > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote: > > - setting the default (= menu display and so on) language to Lojban > (logged in users may be able to change it for themselves); > > Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban to people who > doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better to have > English as the default interface language? > It seems to be the most used language on the internet: > [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet > > A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai> > English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my updated > method of generating gismu uses data from here > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) > and English is No 2. > I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but I hope I can > fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your browser (for > those who are not logged in). > Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us to write > articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbanic skills > (this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io) > Now some news. > > 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but others might do). > 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed. > 3. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets added. > 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled. > If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more touble than it's worth. A lot of templates on wikipedia and other places are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for pages but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces. My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease being useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from wikipedia instead of enabling this option. mi'e .alyn. -- .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.