Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:39794) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TbDJG-00081j-PS; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:38:08 -0800 Received: by mail-gh0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f16sf528259ghb.16 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oqhczf0CmQFbg/MYe1K+PAqg7wrviSqcJvjEbS6aK54=; b=W2SZweMgK0iflrSdEx+bJNtc22zYgv/4WtMa7++ACES5nDiiHcyBBbTbLEyeGvKcbp jt70Oxx0Rm3kgg9MQZ7b09/Eero29SBX/igW3d5NEDeqQju1dvULttGeLipIMxZV4M8h sqAT2DQyjTwWTlpknnRWYzboXKfHWcxrZsW7Yga3MmLMYpODBzIhzINGOB7WKkMnxmzW ha4dpSDuMPnptvz8JEbdv1UChIHOH+hjdfQYjhAF2xdUjenbcBn+zUMXPOH8atFTD+Bu 1jnrbjplsB0y/ChipTPKKCt7hRhJACeu+YLy/idj+2lNVL6ChrAbrxwLDhbkU5TkmQDf dqnw== Received: by 10.182.12.6 with SMTP id u6mr419436obb.42.1353515872381; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.163.3 with SMTP id ye3ls5397421igb.24.canary; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.115.73 with SMTP id fd9mr15749527icc.2.1353515871917; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.115.73 with SMTP id fd9mr15749524icc.2.1353515871897; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si5517igl.0.2012.11.21.08.37.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.44; Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n5so6899933oag.3 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.230 with SMTP id q6mr3295763oee.134.1353515871715; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.94.71 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121121162901.GJ27366@sunflowerriver.org> References: <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <4429b57e-3fe6-4073-8535-68ecb4d4740c@googlegroups.com> <20121121162901.GJ27366@sunflowerriver.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:37:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c1e8bb3f8504cf03f823 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8ff1c1e8bb3f8504cf03f823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote: > > > > - setting the default (= menu display and so on) language to > Lojban > > (logged in users may be able to change it for themselves); > > > > Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban to people > who > > doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better to have > > English as the default interface language? > > It seems to be the most used language on the internet: > > [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet > > > > A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai> > > English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my updated > > method of generating gismu uses data from here > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers > ) > > and English is No 2. > > I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but I hope I > can > > fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your browser (for > > those who are not logged in). > > Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us to > write > > articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbanic > skills > > (this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io) > > Now some news. > > > > 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but others might > do). > > 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed. > > 3. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets added. > > 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled. > > > > If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more touble > than it's worth. A lot of templates on wikipedia and other places > are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for pages > but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces. > > My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease being > useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from > wikipedia instead of enabling this option. > Um, he said DISabled, not ENabled.... > mi'e .alyn. > -- > .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote:=
> =A0 =A0On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote:<= br> >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0- setting the default (=3D menu display and so on) lang= uage to Lojban
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(logged in users may be able to change it for themselve= s);
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban t= o people who
> =A0 =A0 =A0doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't i= t be better to have
> =A0 =A0 =A0English as the default interface language?
> =A0 =A0 =A0It seems to be the most used language on the internet:
> =A0 =A0 =A0[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langua= ges_used_on_the_Internet
>
> =A0 =A0A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai>
> =A0 =A0English is not the most common language on the planet ([2= ]my updated
> =A0 =A0method of generating gismu uses data from her= e
> =A0 =A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis= t_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers)
> =A0 =A0and English is No 2.
> =A0 =A0I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this bu= t I hope I can
> =A0 =A0fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your brows= er (for
> =A0 =A0those who are not logged in).
> =A0 =A0Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force us= to write
> =A0 =A0articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own lojbani= c skills
> =A0 =A0(this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io)
> =A0 =A0Now some news.
>
> =A0 =A0 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it bu= t others might do).
> =A0 =A0 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed.
> =A0 =A0 3. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets adde= d.
> =A0 =A0 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled.
>

If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more touble
than it's worth. =A0A lot of templates on wikipedia and other places are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for pages
but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces.

My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease being
useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from
wikipedia instead of enabling this option.

Um, he = said DISabled, not ENabled....
=A0
mi'e .alyn.
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