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[68.35.162.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wh5sm82672igb.17.2012.11.21.09.20.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:20:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:20:07 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban Message-ID: <20121121172032.GL27366@sunflowerriver.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <4429b57e-3fe6-4073-8535-68ecb4d4740c@googlegroups.com> <20121121162901.GJ27366@sunflowerriver.org> <20121121165103.GK27366@sunflowerriver.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJv158RgpXwJGh3T0Rm3jzzujzA5WyhoiIFta801k+yy2BUIeCuvy0dA2Zjiu+BXbPcPvv X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.210.169 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:58:15AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:50:44 PM UTC+4, .alyn.post. wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:37:51AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:29 AM, .alyn.post. > > <[1][1]alyn...@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > > > * *On Monday, November 19, 2012 8:47:45 PM UTC+4, entot wrote: > > > > > > * * *On Friday, November 16, 2012 3:25:53 PM UTC+9, iesk wrote: > > > > > > * * * *- setting the default (= menu display and so on) > language to > > Lojban > > > * * * *(logged in users may be able to change it for > themselves); > > > > > > * * *Since the purpose of the wiki includes introducing Lojban > to > > people who > > > * * *doesn't know about it (doesn't it?), wouldn't it be better > to > > have > > > * * *English as the default interface language? > > > * * *It seems to be the most used language on the internet: > > > * * > *[1][2][2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet > > > > > > * *A quick and short reply from me <.ienaisai> > > > * *English is not the most common language on the planet ([2]my > > updated > > > * *method of generating gismu uses data from here > > > * > > > *[3][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) > > > * *and English is No 2. > > > * *I guess you just don't see any method of overriding this but > I hope > > I can > > > * *fix that soon. LMW will be opened in the language of your > browser > > (for > > > * *those who are not logged in). > > > * *Making Lojban the default language in LMW indeed would force > us to > > write > > > * *articles in Lojban first and therefore increase our own > lojbanic > > skills > > > * *(this idea was mentioned in IRC by la tsani ku .io) > > > * *Now some news. > > > > > > * * 1. CavendishMW skin added (though I don't like it but > others might > > do). > > > * * 2. Semantic Mediawiki added and installed. > > > * * 3. [4][4]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets > added. > > > * * 4. Autocapitalisation of the name of articles disabled. > > > > > > > If you enabled this how I think you did, it is probably more > touble > > than it's worth. *A lot of templates on wikipedia and other > places > > are sloppy with case, which you can solve using #REDIRECT for > pages > > but I have not figured out how to solve for namespaces. > > > > My experimentation with this option caused templates to cease > being > > useful, so I reverted to using the {{lowercase}} template from > > wikipedia instead of enabling this option. > > > > Um, he said DISabled, not ENabled.... > > * > > > > Ah, Mediawiki is a bit weird this way. It by default capitalizes > the first word of a page, which I assume is what gleki refers to > as Autocapitalization. Disabling this changes the default, which > is why I said "enabling." You have to actively work to make > mediawiki not do this. > > Heh, Alan is right. I just added > $wgCapitalLinks = false; > > ti'e we can do that on a per namespace basis. > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgCapitalLinkOverrides > > $wgCapitalLinkOverrides[ NS_FILE ] = false; > > What should I put instead of NS_FILE? mi mutce se cfipu tu'a la'oi > settings > Nice, this is the first time I've been exposed to this option. The last I played with capitalization I tried aliases namespaces without much luck. You should set NS_TEMPLATE to false. We might have to do NS_CATEGORY too, but I think things will work without doing NS_CATEGORY and it would be nice to not have initial uppercase. ma'a ba lifri la'e di'u => Let's see what comes of it! mi'e .alyn. -- .i ma'a lo bradi cu penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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