On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Jones= <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Michael Turniansky <= ;mturniansky@gma= il.com> wrote:

But I disagree that it is similar. =A0Larlermorna (which I= use for my gmail avatar) is based on letters/phonemes, as are all the alte= rnate orthographies. =A0Charlicopter was suggesting a system built around &= quot;Lojbanic stru= cture, syntax, logic, etc." =A0Completely=A0different idea.

Based on the fact that he uses the Japanese Kan= a as a reference, it sounds to me like another phoneme orthography to me.=A0

=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:54 PM= , Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Nov = 21, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

=A0 Actually, Jonathan, I would have dismissed it too, as = "oh, great, another suggestion for a writing system" =A0But this = one was actually different. =A0It's suggesting that rather than a simpl= y one-to-one substitution of the existing orthography to another letter-bas= ed system, that we basically give each brivla a single symbol, based on thi= ngs such as place value, so that, for example, each of the danlu gismu migh= t look similar, since they have similar terbri. =A0 It's an intriguing = suggestion, but I doubt there's much support for it.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
I wasn't dismissing it. I told him to Google larlermorna because that = writing system is similar to what he described.

I agree that there i= sn't likely going to be much support for such a system.
=A0
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

Google "larlermorna".

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM, charlicopter@gmail.com <lanternsmith@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings everyone,
This is my first tim= e visiting the forums...
My curiosity currently lies in the possibility = of a written system that could be developed around Lojban that respects its= logical nature.
As far as I can tell in my rudimentary beginnings as a student of Lojban: T= he language is designed around phonetics in a similar way to Japanese. by t= hat, I mean that the language uses predictable and consistent combinations = of vowel and consonant phonetics in the structure of the constituent word-f= orms.

Preposition: In written Lojban, what if you used a character system sim= ilar to Japanese hiragana and katakana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana= =A0 &=A0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana
Japanese Katakana and Hiragana are based on characters which hail from anci= ent cultural influences, but what if you started fresh and designed charact= ers around some kind of logical analysis of Lojbanic structure, syntax, log= ic, etc. such that the characters are themselves always internally consiste= nt and logical? Pictorally speaking, you have many variables to draw upon: = stroke length, angle, curvature, dots, rotation/orientation, etc. certainly= as many variables as are needed to accurately represent the phonetics, syn= tax etc. of the language. In this way, entire gismu might have a chance of = being reduced to single characters which LOOK and FLOW as logically as they= behave.

Thoughts?

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