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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Errr, did I mention a tendency to spend a lot of time on trivia while major problems go unaddressed? From: Matt Arnold To: lojban Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Please answer a book design opinion question (was Re: [lojban] CLL 1.1/ CLL 2.0. What is your opinion in the current situation?) 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What is your opinion in the current situation?) =20 I was describing starting over from your source markup, whatever it may be (and I presumed, apparently wrongly, the source markup was XML compatible). You would ignore my style sheets-- indeed, ignore the InDesign Document entirely-- and carry out your current non-InDesign plan, whatever that may be. In that case, the only work you've lost is mine. But in any other plan, I'm useless to you anyway, so you've lost nothing. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:32:30PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: >> InDesign imports XML and formats it automatically based on style >> sheets. My thought was that if I were to be unavailable to make >> revisions, someone else could probably take the source XML and >> format it the same way they were already going to if the InDesign >> version had never existed to begin with. > > How, though?=A0 Given the XML and your style sheets, what do we do > with it? > > Like I said, I'm perfectly willing to give it a shot, I jsut want to > understand more. > > -Robin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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Errr, did I mention a= tendency to spend a lot of time on trivia while major problems go unaddres= sed?



From: Matt Arnold <matt.matta= rn@gmail.com>
To: l= ojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Please answer a book desig= n opinion question (was Re: [lojban] CLL 1.1/ CLL 2.0. What is your opinion= in the current situation?)

I was describing starting over from your source markup, whatever it
may = be (and I presumed, apparently wrongly, the source markup was XML
compat= ible). You would ignore my style sheets-- indeed, ignore the
InDesign Do= cument entirely-- and carry out your current non-InDesign
plan, whatever= that may be. In that case, the only work you've lost is
mine. But in an= y other plan, I'm useless to you anyway, so you've lost
nothing.

=
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 201= 2 at 02:32:30PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote:
>> InDesign imports XML = and formats it automatically based on style
>> sheets. My thought = was that if I were to be unavailable to make
>> revisions, someone= else could probably take the source XML and
>> format it the same way they were already going to if the InDesign
>> version ha= d never existed to begin with.
>
> How, though?  Given the= XML and your style sheets, what do we do
> with it?
>
> = Like I said, I'm perfectly willing to give it a shot, I jsut want to
>= ; understand more.
>
> -Robin
>
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