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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f55661eb4404cf198aff X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1f55661eb4404cf198aff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, la gleki wrote= : > So do we need gismu for ventral side? > If so I completely lost. > > Peeps, what are the terms fro that in the languages that you speak? > I can't find such a word in English ("ventral side of body" doesn't count= ). > The ventral side is the opposite of the back side: the stomache, chest. In fact, ventral comes from the Latin word for "belly". > .e'u if English and other languages lack this word we shoudl remove them > from the algorithm and retain the languages that have this concept in a > short rootword. > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 11:40:40 AM UTC+4, Arnt Richard Johansen > wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:10:41PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:12:54AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> > >> > > The cutne is anterior to the betfu; both have a ventral surface. >> > >> > Can you point met to an explanation of those words, and words like >> > them, that makes that make sense? Because I don't get it. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Anatomical_terms_of_location#** >> Vertebrate_directional_termsis a bit geeky, but hopefully i= t helps. >> >> >> -- >> Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ >> On the Semantic Web, it's too hard to prove you're not a dog. --Bill de >> h=EF=BF=BDra >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/2aTQL1yDfnEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
So do we need =A0gismu for ventral side?
If so I completely lost.
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Peeps, what are the terms fro that in the languages tha= t you speak?
I can't find such a word in English ("ventr= al side of body" doesn't count).

The ventral side is the opposite of the back side: th= e stomache, chest. In fact, ventral comes from the Latin word for "bel= ly".
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.e'u if English and other languages lack this word we s= houdl remove them from the algorithm and retain the languages that have thi= s concept in a short rootword.


On Monday, Septembe= r 24, 2012 11:40:40 AM UTC+4, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
On Sun, Sep 23, 2= 012 at 10:10:41PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:12:54AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
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> > The cutne is anterior to the betfu; both have a ventral surfa= ce.
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> Can you point met to an explanation of those words, and words like
> them, that makes that make sense? =A0Because I don't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/= Anatomical_terms_of_location#Vertebrate_directional_terms= is a bit geeky, but hopefully it helps.


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