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In the booklet "What is Lojban?", the letterals are listed in this order:

' , . a b c d e f g i j k l m n o p r s t u v x y z

ref.: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/overview.html

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:28 AM, la ki'es,di'es <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> coi
>
> Today where I was learning of branch of philosophy called occult numbers
> and sacred geometry book, I faced failure of English and Arabic to convert
> my name to number, because you must write your name without abnormality,
> where spelling for our names even native speakers is not correct, then I
> arranged lojban letters under the numbers in chart, where I can spelling my
> name standardly, and obtained to correct result, but I had problem in
> lojban alphabet, where the letter ' order?, where I put it in the last
> after z and all vowels in the first.
>
> In fact me be as Muslim beleive in everythings but the important see the
> good of it not the bad, our values availble in Science but the our
> reality is not legal and the right and left is suspicious and masked...
>
> co'o
>
>
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In the booklet &quot;What is Lojban?&quot;, the letterals are listed in thi=
s order:<br><br>&#39; , . a b c d e f g i j k l m n o p r s t u v x y z<br>=
<br>ref.: <a href=3D"http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/overvie=
w.html">http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure/overview.html</a><br=
>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:28 AM, la ki&#39;=
es,di&#39;es <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk"=
 target=3D"_blank">buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>coi</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Today where I was learning of branch of philosophy called occult numbe=
rs and sacred geometry book, I faced failure of English and Arabic to conve=
rt my name to number, because you must write your name without a<span lang=
=3D"en"><span>bnormality, where spelling for our names even native speakers=
 is not correct, then I arranged lojban letters under the numbers in chart,=
 where I can spelling my name standardly, and obtained to correct result, b=
ut I had problem in lojban alphabet, where the letter &#39; order?, where I=
 put it in the last after z and all vowels in the first.</span></span></div=
>

<div><span lang=3D"en"><span></span></span>=A0</div>
<div><span lang=3D"en"><span>In fact me be as Muslim beleive in everythings=
 but the important see the good of it not the bad, our values availble in <=
span>Science but the our reality is not legal and the right and left is s<s=
pan lang=3D"en"><span>uspicious</span> <span>and</span> masked...</span></s=
pan></span></span></div>

<div><span lang=3D"en"><span><span><span lang=3D"en"></span></span></span><=
/span>=A0</div>
<div><span lang=3D"en"><span><span><span lang=3D"en">co&#39;o</span></span>=
</span></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>

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