=A0 But again, lojban doesn't necessarily divide up th= e world in the same way as any other given schema/language does, for good o= r ill. =A0Since you specifically want to ask about the periodic table, we c= an questions like, "why isn't there a gismu for the lanthanides, o= r the actinides, haolgens, or heck, even 'radioactive'?" jinme= includes alloys, etc. We have a word, ratni, that can used to specify elem= ental compunds. =A0But again, we're talking about a language that (at l= east on a gismu level) differentiates between rats and mice, but doesn'= t even have a word for "rodent". =A0That classes worms and mollus= ks together, lumps tigers and cheetahs and panthers (but not lions get thei= r won), etc.=A0

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--geyspa

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.= com> wrote:

That seems significantly less useful than ha= ving a term for "noble gases", especially since nitrogen is actua= lly not as inert as everyone intuitively thinks--under very high pressure, = gas tanks for human breathing need to use noble gases rather than nitrogen,= because under sufficient pressure diatomic nitrogen begins reacting with o= ur tissues.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM,= Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

=A0Except that "navni&= quot; officially refers to "inert gasses", not "noble gasses= " Therefore, they are not necessarily elemental, and also nitrogen wou= ld actually likely be included, despite the fact that it has its own specif= ic gismu, as well as stuff like=A0http://www.concep= tfire-uk.com/products/inert-gas-ig55-inergen-ig541/
=A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com= > wrote:

Given that all the other ones were included,= its exclusion feels deliberate at a glance.

mu'o mi'e = la latro'a

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:1= 5 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
=A0Wh= o says helium is not a navni? It most certainly is. =A0It's solnavni. L= ists of things in square brackets in definitions are not intended to be=A0e= xhaustive, if that's what led you to that conclusion.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently the default type of na= vni is neon, and helium is not a type of navni. Why are either of these the= case?

mu'o mi'e la latro'a
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