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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I never said there was a standard. On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:39 AM, la ki'es-di'es wrote: > coi > > Thanks for your opinions. > > As pierre said some special symbols are not letters such as stop sign . > and so on... > > And the y'y in fact not symbol but letter, so there is doubt about the > correct order of it in alphabet. > > May there is diffrent alphabet and the all is true as selpa'i said. > > But should that be one standared alphabet as aionys said. > > But I stand initialy on based the vocabulary in this page > > http://jbotcan.org/docs/l4b/lessvocab.html > > is arranged such as that but the problem what is the sure position of y'y > within the alphabet. > > Thanks > mu''ymmyd-nurr byrruk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/t3R_r8SIAyEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (eyeonus[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --e89a8ff1c6ea53620b04cfb47adc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I never said there was a standard. On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:39 AM, la ki'es-di'es wrote: > coi > > Thanks for your opinions. > > As pierre said some special symbols are not letters such as stop sign . > and so on... > > And the y'y in fact not symbol but letter, so there is doubt about the > correct order of it in alphabet. > > May there is diffrent alphabet and the all is true as selpa'i said. > > But should that be one standared alphabet as aionys said. > > But I stand initialy on based the vocabulary in this page > > http://jbotcan.org/docs/l4b/lessvocab.html > > is arranged such as that but the problem what is the sure position of y'y > within the alphabet. > > Thanks > mu''ymmyd-nurr byrruk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/t3R_r8SIAyEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8ff1c6ea53620b04cfb47adc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I never said there was a standard.

On Fri= , Nov 30, 2012 at 3:39 AM, la ki'es-di'es <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.= uk> wrote:
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Thanks for your opinions.
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May there is diffrent alphabet and the all is true as selpa'i=A0 s= aid.
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is arranged such as that but the problem what is the sure position of = y'y within the alphabet.
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mu''ymmyd-nurr byrruk

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