Received: from mail-ye0-f187.google.com ([209.85.213.187]:63247) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TgdwA-0002jr-BO; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:43 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f187.google.com with SMTP id m14sf4465110yen.24 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qWeCF0sPPpoI2NYAqA5v42GrtKgkrzH8y0dFSVJJoLo=; b=DnYIxX2fJ77YkwhgsdDvEyweZN14F8iDhAxYJkZvMHSKH2wlCPFTAycPBE80hVFO+9 hqULJN8Mnh20ZX+g1qlZTGpC8Ww85+J0/7vG+mQSck4Ig20EZf4mm6g5zu32GmKcaCg8 ZwGycJR8Ow5yAeo1I0R/Y6byrMp/Oq6V+9VyhW+FOMzB9NLsX4JviyVwWaI8qST05dEt NZHhRKqNVXrWuVVpJkkyDFQQPh3ed2C3h5ts9J0f6Y/XcVrqGznOn5IjvuQHu3Xrfhxd GhVPtLM2R1IAleV+BQlLn1SakGxyO3upjEdm/eL+S/k5hdqPhT0Tgy4s6ed18+eTdAvX HATQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qWeCF0sPPpoI2NYAqA5v42GrtKgkrzH8y0dFSVJJoLo=; b=KlSzfojw622qGNfWayffWUVaMPMVzDPA7rEzjWJhIh+8gxUNcH079vU/z644KBAHOz J6WYDuwcKE2dTGng1o5nEoZs83Kvs8z/sJZJQR7jX6emZka43bvnHyeGt3xXUthiGhvB jOwq+T8b+WT9bAmkU+nBCaOtX+G0MN5NCwaTSKH8TaiuQdjb81z6ts7uhhdNm0xAGOpy 2D0b+G2OjxlC/QnXN7fcrY1mHbAjpbN5nH4a6SzKrvbh9kYMFrjpZ4ZQE2ct8hxdjDNh DSMNhNLJj1fA21PN/0NcM4jpYUyxzJ+6x7VW2CRYmcwZxz2YEYv44IEru2hy9IQ5vNKP bmag== Received: by 10.50.181.234 with SMTP id dz10mr607013igc.6.1354809867668; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.188.166 with SMTP id gb6ls4637359igc.27.canary; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr1566793icb.24.1354809866752; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr1566792icb.24.1354809866735; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hw1si549422igc.3.2012.12.06.08.04.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.50; Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n16so8069880oag.23 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.132.112 with SMTP id ot16mr1168489obb.69.1354809866456; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.186.74 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 08:04:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4c6ba53e-7502-484b-a93b-f6d52af5845c@googlegroups.com> <22d8b978-35ca-4006-bd5f-7177052c47ec@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 11:04:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: One of the experiments about lojban and some failure of Languages From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b5caad40de804d0314088 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93b5caad40de804d0314088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:25 AM, la ki'es-di'es wrote: > >> Yes, but I think the aionys alphabet suggestion is the standard >> version,an intuition be one of the ways of knowledge in psychology. > > > It wasn't a suggestion. It's just the order in which I found it in the > only Lojban publication in which I found the Lojban alphabet listed > together. As it says in Chapter 3 section 1 of the CLL, "The alphabetic order given above is that of the ASCII coded character set, widely used in computers. By making Lojban alphabetical order the same as ASCII, computerized sorting and searching of Lojban text is facilitated." To the extent that the CLL is official, this is THE official alphabetic order. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --14dae93b5caad40de804d0314088 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Dec 4, 20= 12 at 7:56 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Dec 4, 201= 2 at 5:25 AM, la ki'es-di'es <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Yes, but I think the aionys alphabet suggestion is the standard version,an = intuition=A0be=A0one of the ways of knowledge in psychology.<= /span>

It wasn't a suggestion. It's just the order in whic= h I found it in the only Lojban publication in which I found the Lojban alp= habet listed together.

=A0 As it says in Chapter 3 section = 1 of the CLL, "The alphabetic order given above is that of the ASCII c= oded character set, widely used in computers. By making Lojban alphabetical= order the same as ASCII, computerized sorting and searching of Lojban text= is facilitated."
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=A0 =A0To the extent that = the CLL is official, this is THE official=A0alphabetic=A0order.

=A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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