Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:35665) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Th4It-0006Qb-Ay; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:14:03 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q1sf476124ggm.16 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:13:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=msQDnTEgg67MZfw8errydjZefWKBhaEH/kutAsJSbyY=; b=RhCFKhoFi+RSRxuu3jcWFa4FUTPYCZNDoX8iYv6I8iVs6PnbFBParMqVFbm7vwz91H TzYjj6c5jsoss0dJiuhvKcl7dCm4WSOijB6W6FMo5izMF33inMy3ScZiX3fG9vBfS6/M aNBClLNKqt7lOPhZKY0f4dgayG9Q/xl6wpNipzMAA/CBXVYaBQWdCiFbkW+LoZbTsC5I XiU88NylODWehh5w+t9ieV9DqG3a20UTIVw6UXvHVYNzeFdUtLQUha+L/HcoN+UU4EwU 1dmkT3l2f6WWvzEhQh8hpzBn0t30IZ702zcibnBvPStaYRN+hDTCqIwcSRVvQcsaEXiv Gi6g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=msQDnTEgg67MZfw8errydjZefWKBhaEH/kutAsJSbyY=; b=W6TRddYGkYOL4rArV3SaQ4RCWIVAWQ8qwUROSJ5XY323hIvUCYwc5LJHnBM4u/vi0O HWpr6Dbn9H9rC6G4R70BS5FEJCfK1+mofbT3fibtkE/NZ9o+WHgaBW6Sansg7dRj8Ykp l3+3CbLf0PLrpjERp55n6OtLw/mrpW4LffI41nunD3CsMNFKIm0tYndt7cpoCmMf0N3F YZNksWaSjrbcF7rNG1TE12nFJncWWP57aSuf7sFmfau50dEMSAu3QnnnGu1sSQZBWCAK UQbzniwpuLMKdJMefZ5pbj3YymsE7Ve79HU5CXWcgptttKjBZya0XAxt/xoI5bjzazsM DeCQ== Received: by 10.49.75.195 with SMTP id e3mr1542769qew.24.1354911220210; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:13:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.119.162 with SMTP id kv2ls556651qeb.86.gmail; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.87.1 with SMTP id t1mr1507579qez.41.1354911219066; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 12:13:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: vruxir To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <344a8d7e-dd22-4d1c-ad65-e7284c4d913a@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <95cc510f-649e-4b3c-b3b8-fd5ebed42fcc@googlegroups.com> References: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> <6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <038dbeba-5a17-46c0-a904-9a09a765fff0@googlegroups.com> <95cc510f-649e-4b3c-b3b8-fd5ebed42fcc@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kextrii@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1150_14508419.1354911218308" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1150_14508419.1354911218308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .u'u Apparently that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and triggering the "Saving failed" popup. Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces (says the default namespace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS) If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits. mu'o mi'e .vruxir. On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: > > *UPDATE.* > The following strings have been changed to: > > $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; > $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; > > to ki'e doi vruxir toi > > On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >> >> It also looks like you can do this: >> >> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >> >> Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to >> translations will not require reCAPTCHA. >> (To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will be >> slightly more secure that way). >> >> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >> >> >> On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> I changed the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false. >>> >>> The current values are >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = true; >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false; >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true; >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true; >>> >>> What needs to be changed or added? >>> >>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir wrote: >>>> > I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA. I >>>> have >>>> > been able to work around it by doing this: >>>> > >>>> > Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation >>>> Messages >>>> > table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jbobau >>>> > selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edit >>>> that >>>> > section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show the >>>> > required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save >>>> Page".) >>>> > >>>> >>>> I got it, thanks! >>>> >>>> > I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translation >>>> section >>>> > in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think of >>>> is to >>>> > disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix >>>> "Translations:"; >>>> > hopefully that is possible. >>>> > >>>> > mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Translation pages fail in saving. >>>> >> >>>> >> I go translate a page >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-jbobau+selci%27a&language=ja&limit=100&task=view >>>> >> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups and >>>> says >>>> >> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this problem. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "lojban" group. >>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/QY6eedzR05QJ. >>>> > >>>> > To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > lojban+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/jLaIPmHNcWoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_1150_14508419.1354911218308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .u'u

Apparently that didn't work the way I thought it wo= uld work. Now it's back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations f= or some reason, and triggering the "Saving failed" popup.

Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work:
= http://www.= mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the $wgCaptc= haTriggersOnNamespace variable)
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extensi= on_default_namespaces (says the default namespace for "Translation= s:" is NS= _TRANSLATIONS)

If y= ou can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should revert bac= k to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;
Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous= edits.

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.

On Friday, Decem= ber 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPDATE.
The following strings have been changed to= :

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTrig= gersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] =3D false;

to ki'e doi= vruxir toi

On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC= +4, vruxir wrote:
It also looks like= you can do this:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] =3D fa= lse;

Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAP= TCHA, but edits to translations will not require reCAPTCHA.
(To t= he best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will be slightl= y more secure that way).

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
<= div>

On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:I changed the value of $wgCaptch= aTriggers['edit'] to false.

The current values are
$wgCaptch= aTriggers['edit']          =3D false; 
<= div>$wgCaptchaTriggers['create']        =3D true; =
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl']        =3D fals= e; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] =3D true;
=
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin']      =3D true;

What needs to be changed or added?

On Friday, December 7, 201= 2 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir <kex...@gmail.com> wro= te:
> I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA= . I have
> been able to work around it by doing this:
>
> Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation Mes= sages
> table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jboba= u
> selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edi= t that
> section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show = the
> required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save Pag= e".)
>

I got it, thanks!

> I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translatio= n section
> in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think o= f is to
> disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix "Translation= s:";
> hopefully that is possible.
>
> mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote:
>>
>> Translation pages fail in saving.
>>
>> I go translate a page
>>
>> http://mw.lojba= n.org/index.php?title=3DSpecial%3ATranslate&taction=3Dtransla= te&group=3Dpage-jbobau+selci%27a&language=3Dja&limit= =3D100&task=3Dview
>> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups a= nd says
>> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this pro= blem.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= Groups
> "lojban" group.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/QY6eedzR05Q= J.
>
> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com.
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>
lojban+un...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/jL= aIPmHNcWoJ.
=20 To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.
------=_Part_1150_14508419.1354911218308--