Received: from mail-la0-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:59356) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ThlGu-0003lP-Pq; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:49 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f61.google.com with SMTP id j13sf919200lah.16 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YGM+5uDt0BDdlyqEXMEcE7DZr3AyvCwkwl60Qa65JcA=; b=a8YncqU+6rfnO4hBbgj4/4WntzNgRf+JF6z7I+S2Ivxm12FVEBD4d3hEPTtG1qypjw EDyfgCnAstLEDymHkA0LNwphfAefx1LCP6nvzCZ6wg5FrC9GZaA88Yc4UQ/2+hS11Jb+ WGLj8PgBcxLbLBnClj9bnm9wiBPlRSOxM6uKR41H7DLTlNPjLLLH48YObq4MXdd/ShRu NVpym8S6w4/vMbmAOMM1fwxIgolfhAy1IgLM1dlOnQOgcFL0XlZjkuFindujFvsJwCUa Y+TZzx53xSzs515aFqpv06Kl8F5gbKVBB4Oo7QtLl83fm02TWT6q7Lsq0J5fioWYPhze 1w8g== Received: by 10.180.105.105 with SMTP id gl9mr715163wib.2.1355076388671; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.109.82 with SMTP id hq18ls581286wib.1.gmail; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.214.197 with SMTP id c45mr11061718eep.7.1355076388166; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.214.197 with SMTP id c45mr11061717eep.7.1355076388157; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id g9si6431386eeo.1.2012.12.09.10.06.28; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.22; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Dec 2012 18:06:25 -0000 Received: from p5DDC436D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [93.220.67.109] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 09 Dec 2012 19:06:25 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19W6IEKNKpW5K4IkcdyrnHd8qK2t2o3r6eQD/bIbh kuytHybcOgzrfk Message-ID: <50C4D324.2000007@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 19:06:28 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] sei References: <5E45BBBC-0430-4A29-89AF-6ECD6B59022F@evertype.com> In-Reply-To: <5E45BBBC-0430-4A29-89AF-6ECD6B59022F@evertype.com> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la Michael Everson cu cusku di'e > When a metalinguistic aside is begun with "sei", how do you know when it = ends? A {sei} phrase automatically ends once it sees a selbri, but it also has=20 a terminator {se'u}. The benefit of this restriction is that {se'u} is=20 almost never needed, unless you have to prevent a tanru and can't use=20 any other means to prevent it. The general syntax of a {sei}-clause is: sei [any number of terms] [selbri] se'u If you want to add sumti after the selbri, you can still do so using=20 {be}, since {broda be ko'a [be'o]} is still just a selbri. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo je nai zo lejbo do=E1=BB=8B m=C3=A8lbi mlen=C3=AC'u .i do c=C3=A0tlu ki'u ma fe la x=C3=A0mpre =C5=ADu .i do t=C3=ACnsa c=C3=A0rmi gi je s=C3=ACrji se t=C3=A0rmi .i ta=E1=BB=8B bo da'i pu c=C3=ACtka lo gr=C3=A0na ku . . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.