Received: from mail-ie0-f189.google.com ([209.85.223.189]:50908) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TjaJt-0001Nb-8h; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:28 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf1971741ieb.16 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5SL5fEwHeXeL5i3adw35YfD2n0iMXTI74F6kIvxVo3A=; b=tsGdFhaHpZ2ptCQaxeFLCczY9Wx3T2FtJLo8rrTp634zXB1dREDUfB3Jf09/1y03GI qCZ0BV7jIejfsT8FfQ5/XpcdcfdhdqFxjzkqBdwQo277Ap1z9DO7hJR3WIYD60xuHR+9 /TsKsfurxr7L88LtbW6GYsMP5rQGndwsHodwRXfl9Wjd389RbGh4ZkBTm6hX1+mhGU+G TK2iMqdo7SNLA7dnh1SP5c+5mF79DNfZ/QbKWYtver7VXvuiZ92+9sKLUD25Y1qy0XBc 8q4zlyzcvZ/qsrr/6Ifn/Aa0dkOrusLc67bgtLd1BNtQyRkXmHQi+iFdQqaJi+LeWYn8 /BHg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5SL5fEwHeXeL5i3adw35YfD2n0iMXTI74F6kIvxVo3A=; b=rv7JXtH3xzpGvEmy5+DCZ2NPKKLQImTny6hXNyqCQMr3OFBQmBJb9oLGsF0FcDvnB6 ahsHWU9uOLUoTZuzXvLEHtn4UrJB4mrdOcjLOSpCIU/IR5EKwXyDWQ2s8/ZCE7gszUZr qwKTWm7BJ1No7pKac6vL/timoxkFpcDkj88pddexePdLVjSttPGG2PSIgRCPMXtbqv7W v6vzNJbXa3z3YzxXAfJ6OHyOxH/WJeoTYarHl02I/tWlAuZcltX1bK6Na52FEoSA6iqD cKNvu4faIfydf5r8tB2LXJ1470t2eMqoaeylq6qirlAEsBHN4p29EGuwrRoJIsuql2gQ 75DQ== Received: by 10.49.24.13 with SMTP id q13mr1205762qef.33.1355510946432; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.119.162 with SMTP id kv2ls1246876qeb.86.gmail; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.116.115 with SMTP id jv19mr1184376qeb.21.1355510944910; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:49:04 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13381863-cf1e-44d0-a5a8-d68d3b38b45e@googlegroups.com> References: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> <6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <038dbeba-5a17-46c0-a904-9a09a765fff0@googlegroups.com> <95cc510f-649e-4b3c-b3b8-fd5ebed42fcc@googlegroups.com> <344a8d7e-dd22-4d1c-ad65-e7284c4d913a@googlegroups.com> <13381863-cf1e-44d0-a5a8-d68d3b38b45e@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_325_17020675.1355510944439" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_325_17020675.1355510944439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *UPDATE. *Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widget) extension installed. See http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Special:Version Plese, check if you can use it to embed Google maps etc. *BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????* On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > > > > On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >> >> .u'u >> >> Apparently that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's >> back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and >> triggering the "Saving failed" popup. >> >> Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work: >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the >> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable) >> http: >> > > //www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces (says >> the default namespace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS) >> >> If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should >> revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >> > > *UPDATE.* > $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; > > >> Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits. >> > > how to do that? > > >> >> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >> >> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> *UPDATE.* >>> The following strings have been changed to: >>> >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>> >>> to ki'e doi vruxir toi >>> >>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >>>> >>>> It also looks like you can do this: >>>> >>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>>> >>>> Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to >>>> translations will not require reCAPTCHA. >>>> (To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will >>>> be slightly more secure that way). >>>> >>>> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I changed the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false. >>>>> >>>>> The current values are >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = true; >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false; >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true; >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true; >>>>> >>>>> What needs to be changed or added? >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir wrote: >>>>>> > I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA. >>>>>> I have >>>>>> > been able to work around it by doing this: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation >>>>>> Messages >>>>>> > table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jbobau >>>>>> > selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edit >>>>>> that >>>>>> > section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show >>>>>> the >>>>>> > required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save >>>>>> Page".) >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> I got it, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> > I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translation >>>>>> section >>>>>> > in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think of >>>>>> is to >>>>>> > disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix >>>>>> "Translations:"; >>>>>> > hopefully that is possible. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Translation pages fail in saving. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I go translate a page >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-jbobau+selci%27a&language=ja&limit=100&task=view >>>>>> >> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups and >>>>>> says >>>>>> >> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this >>>>>> problem. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> > "lojban" group. >>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/QY6eedzR05QJ. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> > lojban+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/NelwFCyOU_EJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_325_17020675.1355510944439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UPDATE.
Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wi= dget) extension installed.
See http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Spec= ial:Version

Plese, check if you can use i= t to embed Google maps etc.

BTW how to say "= update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????


On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote= :


On Saturday, December= 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
.u'u

Apparently that didn't work the way I thought= it would work. Now it's back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translat= ions for some reason, and triggering the "Saving failed" popup.
<= br>
Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit&n= bsp;(talks about the $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable)
 
//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_nam= espaces (says the default namespace for "Translations:" is&nb= sp;NS_TRANSLATIONS)<= br>

If you can't think of a reas= on why it didn't work, I guess we should revert back to = $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;

UPDATE. 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;


Another option= would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits.
=

how to do that?
 

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.

On Fri= day, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPDATE.
The following strings have been chang= ed to:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D true;
$wgCaptch= aTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] =3D false;

to ki'= e doi vruxir toi

On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 P= M UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
It also looks= like you can do this:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D tr= ue;
$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = =3D false;

Then, edits on basic pages will require= reCAPTCHA, but edits to translations will not require reCAPTCHA.
(To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will be s= lightly more secure that way).

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.<= /div>


On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wr= ote:
I changed the value of $wg= CaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false.

The current values are
$wg= CaptchaTriggers['edit']          =3D false; <= /div>
$wgCaptchaTriggers['create']        =3D true;=  
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl']        = =3D false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] =3D tru= e;
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin']      =3D true;

What needs to be changed or added?

On Friday, Decembe= r 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir <kex...@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA= . I have
> been able to work around it by doing this:
>
> Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation Mes= sages
> table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jboba= u
> selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edi= t that
> section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show = the
> required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save Pag= e".)
>

I got it, thanks!

> I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translatio= n section
> in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think o= f is to
> disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix "Translation= s:";
> hopefully that is possible.
>
> mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote:
>>
>> Translation pages fail in saving.
>>
>> I go translate a page
>>
>> http://mw.lojba= n.org/index.php?title=3DSpecial%3ATranslate&taction=3Dtransla= te&group=3Dpage-jbobau+selci%27a&language=3Dja&limit= =3D100&task=3Dview
>> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups a= nd says
>> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this pro= blem.
>
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