Received: from mail-da0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:34693) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tjb8Z-000215-TA; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:53 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f61.google.com with SMTP id z8sf1975601dad.16 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yMCOgZBVg8ubpSwyJHZ6ro091Ot3vPmyUA3R04339lM=; b=jwOPegcYT8eyijuvWV/ADkmjMqwKjE0sFv6D56hozOcE2vyxyGdjyo+DyFaDuNBPSa s5GHTr5O8v4wJtJsVABBKEfL6+KlsdN3kIEv1BIzWkWhixOEUU83gU0Tz8mBt5QPL5il FrJbj7HCTstueewG+IAecLvj6Mlsy/E6skmtME4IFTp0M7FbZ3VcyBlHcqBAssmfXf91 nMmx6gw2m/eBrnX/vVU7zM0LDc7m1SNZ4+c/m5x67z9afnqKCSrfAiiQR1lll7ybx26P TSyH0298QfzP6Fg8CZjKY1WTjRtTfP7Fr2i9FCQJJro5NTuy1nnOhF8GTWNYlk0Ydmic jZ9Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yMCOgZBVg8ubpSwyJHZ6ro091Ot3vPmyUA3R04339lM=; b=OgEPo7xDzOkYkhoa/ARd6yOrI//ufKWUZs/Kf+/SprEP5MDFsY2idtSUUFbPZOK0gq wts+6/lPXrhCtdm18+4T5qEG18EnLc+DGIAXZmCEtftT/37JS8ExtQ+4+F6CAmEEDVFB l9tVT2sCmxOA2WWZNnP9l6tvWf7a+OQOgu3ElRUYOHYeav6icanVK5d54/EM6NEw1luY pt3O9+GbzSrG6Fh6QJ/ZFQvAa0AnhgbDKtuoZPe7nN6A6+ifR8Y34vqFtsaPh1hmC+vc nkky4ZjLSrqVi2AG4Nfro/KRyJ1AWbbYesat83nxVRdcuUFEsVmK/AYdb2ZK4Na7cinr AIKQ== Received: by 10.49.38.194 with SMTP id i2mr1185492qek.30.1355514089321; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.50.98 with SMTP id b2ls1269855qeo.19.gmail; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.48.41 with SMTP id i9mr1186878qen.36.1355514086858; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:41:26 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <39510bbc-cf54-4073-95ab-b3648dd182c3@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <00f31542-0cb2-467a-9078-97357b390e33@googlegroups.com> References: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> <6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <038dbeba-5a17-46c0-a904-9a09a765fff0@googlegroups.com> <95cc510f-649e-4b3c-b3b8-fd5ebed42fcc@googlegroups.com> <344a8d7e-dd22-4d1c-ad65-e7284c4d913a@googlegroups.com> <13381863-cf1e-44d0-a5a8-d68d3b38b45e@googlegroups.com> <00f31542-0cb2-467a-9078-97357b390e33@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_751_687045.1355514086440" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_751_687045.1355514086440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also, the $IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be made writable by the web server. See Making a directory writable by the webserver. The compiled templates folder is where Smarty stores pre-compiled templates. ^ ^ I can't do that. Waiting for Robin to reply (privately, not here) On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:31 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: > > Well, I was able to create widgets in the Widget:* namespace. However, > when I add widget code to an article (something along the lines of > "{{#widget:Google Maps|...|...}}"), I can't preview or save the page that I > am editing; the server returns a "500" error. > > The same problem occurred with Widget:Google Maps and Widget:YouTube, so I > don't think it's a problem with the widget source code. When a page * > doesn't* contain the {{#widget:...}} code, it saves without any trouble. > > The 500 error doesn't give any specific information for me, so I don't > know what causes it. There might be a problem with folder write > permissions, but otherwise I couldn't get any useful information from a > Google search. > > mu'o mi'e .vruxir. > > > On Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49:04 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >> >> *UPDATE. >> *Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widget) >> extension installed. >> See http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Special:Version >> >> Plese, check if you can use it to embed Google maps etc. >> >> *BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????* >> >> >> On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >>>> >>>> .u'u >>>> >>>> Apparently that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's >>>> back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and >>>> triggering the "Saving failed" popup. >>>> >>>> Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work: >>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the >>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable) >>>> http: >>>> >>> >> >>> //www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces (says >>>> the default namespace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS) >>>> >>>> If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should >>>> revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>> >>> >>> *UPDATE.* >>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>> >>> >>>> Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits. >>>> >>> >>> how to do that? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>>>> >>>>> *UPDATE.* >>>>> The following strings have been changed to: >>>>> >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>>>> >>>>> to ki'e doi vruxir toi >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It also looks like you can do this: >>>>>> >>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>>>>> >>>>>> Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to >>>>>> translations will not require reCAPTCHA. >>>>>> (To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will >>>>>> be slightly more secure that way). >>>>>> >>>>>> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I changed the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The current values are >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = true; >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false; >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true; >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What needs to be changed or added? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir wrote: >>>>>>>> > I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the >>>>>>>> reCAPTCHA. I have >>>>>>>> > been able to work around it by doing this: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation >>>>>>>> Messages >>>>>>>> > table -- for example, the link that looks like >>>>>>>> "Translations:jbobau >>>>>>>> > selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can >>>>>>>> edit that >>>>>>>> > section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> > required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save >>>>>>>> Page".) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got it, thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each >>>>>>>> translation section >>>>>>>> > in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think >>>>>>>> of is to >>>>>>>> > disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix >>>>>>>> "Translations:"; >>>>>>>> > hopefully that is possible. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Translation pages fail in saving. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> I go translate a page >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-jbobau+selci%27a&language=ja&limit=100&task=view >>>>>>>> >> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups and >>>>>>>> says >>>>>>>> >> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>> > "lojban" group. >>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/QY6eedzR05QJ. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> > lojban+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/WPHrCy31zuwJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Also, the $IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be ma= de writable by the web server. See Making a directory writable by the webserver. The comp= iled templates folder is where Smarty stores pre-compiled templates.


^ ^ I can't do that. Waiting for Robin to reply (privately= , not here)

On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:31 PM UTC+4, vruxir= wrote:
Well, I was able to cre= ate widgets in the Widget:* namespace. However, when I add widget code to a= n article (something along the lines of "{{#widget:Google Maps|...|...}}"),= I can't preview or save the page that I am editing; the server returns a "= 500" error.

The same problem occurred with Widget:Google= Maps and Widget:YouTube, so I don't think it's a problem with the widget s= ource code. When a page doesn't contain the {{#widget:...}} cod= e, it saves without any trouble.

The 500 error doe= sn't give any specific information for me, so I don't know what causes it. = There might be a problem with folder write permissions, but otherwise I cou= ldn't get any useful information from a Google search.

=
mu'o mi'e .vruxir.


On Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49= :04 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPD= ATE.
Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:W= idget) extension installed.

Plese, check = if you can use it to embed Google maps etc.

= BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????<= /div>


On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4= , la gleki wrote:


On Saturda= y, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
.u'u

Apparently that didn't work the wa= y I thought it would work. Now it's back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits = to translations for some reason, and triggering the "Saving failed" popup.<= /div>

Here are the pages that led me to believe it would= work:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Confir= mEdit (talks about the $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable)
 
//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default= _namespaces (says the default namespace for "Translations:" i= s NS_TRANSLATIONS)

If you can't think of a = reason why it didn't work, I guess we should revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;

=
UPDATE. 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;

<= /div>

Another op= tion would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits.

how to do that?
 

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.

On= Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPDATE.
The following strings have been c= hanged to:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D true;
$wgCa= ptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] =3D false;

to= ki'e doi vruxir toi

On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:= 24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
It also l= ooks like you can do this:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['ed= it'] =3D false;

Then, edits on basic pages will re= quire reCAPTCHA, but edits to translations will not require reCAPTCHA.
(To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki will= be slightly more secure that way).

mu'o mi'e .vru= xir.


On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gle= ki wrote:
I changed the value of&nbs= p;$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false.

The current values are
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit']          =3D false;&n= bsp;
$wgCaptchaTriggers['create']        =3D = true; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl']       &nb= sp;=3D false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] =3D = true;
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin']      =3D true= ;

What needs to be changed or added?

On Friday, Dece= mber 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir <kex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA= . I have
> been able to work around it by doing this:
>
> Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation Mes= sages
> table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jboba= u
> selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edi= t that
> section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show = the
> required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save Pag= e".)
>

I got it, thanks!

> I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translatio= n section
> in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think o= f is to
> disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix "Translation= s:";
> hopefully that is possible.
>
> mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote:
>>
>> Translation pages fail in saving.
>>
>> I go translate a page
>>
>>
http://mw.lojba= n.org/index.php?title=3DSpecial%3ATranslate&taction=3Dtransla= te&group=3Dpage-jbobau+selci%27a&language=3Dja&limit= =3D100&task=3Dview
>> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups a= nd says
>> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this pro= blem.
>
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