Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:40289) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tke0k-0005rZ-I2; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:58:00 -0800 Received: by mail-we0-f189.google.com with SMTP id x10sf1835708wey.16 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rzgvFwx2/Dyc/quIzMmKwLTdm9AUIFp6WK2VW4IFak8=; b=Ry454zvrUJbK27NfiOoK2xUYzxKtFDJydnJoyzAEIj7NR7mmGv8I4Yf06hY9T5h+iX 60mo88tseJnD7qTQG767HKOKtppNXdxZrz6FjiJWM74zqk2WdJ1/cgCowdIfP3+yGKVC 7UKSCHtNTb1aaYoU5+ony/RrEKC5IYcmUXSmaXr2T4MmrwGD1FPr4BC/XBPmaBnwuqdT aLzwKOqPgiEz5nje5ksCnPpaOvr6US1zt2/Y4/WTcBNyDx89854oFGs3b5+qOLzVzOl5 tXcN31RmlynYcdw8i+1NWgQh9Os55Bf4fKNvI0CEEfGaY5NdIE414rPpLluf9DFRSuw0 A3wQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rzgvFwx2/Dyc/quIzMmKwLTdm9AUIFp6WK2VW4IFak8=; b=hIvGIfIIj+cEPv9KXoJ3C6avrIU/Z1gxSSTSMm+LLlYbFXZEwnF9nplauYjE02VCwt JDWdADuE/ECkCrApqQfHVSJzV0SRli7lIH8vzJP/HOwF0hRPsuM56CnHwxFHLPiiXQU/ X8b0x0uX+pbY21+9m6avWywi+LR/nyBCMYYOf/5GsyDYmy/qr1XwCgG5nZSYSRHLkJ/V PHAr2CchumI+tdT3L9Vypi/lzeLZfyucwzLCR/gztaERFfUXIhkvhQmkppV2J5jS3N7n dZ9X+eS0EOWNjFKFPvV3d9/bQffqqviBJruNRWWg1HddbJjQ7077fUKSuW1yy7lNqL2Y 7g0w== Received: by 10.180.90.140 with SMTP id bw12mr1356567wib.6.1355763462826; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.19.101 with SMTP id d5ls1298262wie.37.canary; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.85.66 with SMTP id f2mr1357341wiz.13.1355763461460; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:57:40 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <39510bbc-cf54-4073-95ab-b3648dd182c3@googlegroups.com> References: <98ac3a8c-7f91-4049-a8ee-128f9a947671@googlegroups.com> <60b24557-d28a-4330-91e2-4fa350f35cbd@googlegroups.com> <6cb197db-5690-48fb-8a88-3e633bb6f94b@googlegroups.com> <285a3908-97fd-4231-8767-479dd0779da8@googlegroups.com> <20121113171712.GG22972@sunflowerriver.org> <699d8b9d-2f04-4a0a-b2cf-a9f498ac19fd@googlegroups.com> <20121113194725.GL22972@sunflowerriver.org> <7c389416-3ceb-4d21-9b6b-e4e1cb5d312f@googlegroups.com> <2d4db499-3585-4456-b7c7-6a6846d6bcee@googlegroups.com> <038dbeba-5a17-46c0-a904-9a09a765fff0@googlegroups.com> <95cc510f-649e-4b3c-b3b8-fd5ebed42fcc@googlegroups.com> <344a8d7e-dd22-4d1c-ad65-e7284c4d913a@googlegroups.com> <13381863-cf1e-44d0-a5a8-d68d3b38b45e@googlegroups.com> <00f31542-0cb2-467a-9078-97357b390e33@googlegroups.com> <39510bbc-cf54-4073-95ab-b3648dd182c3@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1010_27655823.1355763460623" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1010_27655823.1355763460623 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:41:26 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > > Also, the $IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be > made writable by the web server. See Making a directory writable by the > webserver. > The compiled templates folder is where Smarty stores pre-compiled templates. > > ^ ^ I can't do that. Waiting for Robin to reply (privately, not here) > Robin hasnt replied yet. So i just patched Widgets extension and changed the path from "$IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/" to "$IP/htmlets/" Check whether you can use Widgets now. > On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:31 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >> >> Well, I was able to create widgets in the Widget:* namespace. However, >> when I add widget code to an article (something along the lines of >> "{{#widget:Google Maps|...|...}}"), I can't preview or save the page that I >> am editing; the server returns a "500" error. >> >> The same problem occurred with Widget:Google Maps and Widget:YouTube, so >> I don't think it's a problem with the widget source code. When a page * >> doesn't* contain the {{#widget:...}} code, it saves without any trouble. >> >> The 500 error doesn't give any specific information for me, so I don't >> know what causes it. There might be a problem with folder write >> permissions, but otherwise I couldn't get any useful information from a >> Google search. >> >> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >> >> > >> On Friday, December 14, 2012 1:49:04 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> *UPDATE. >>> *Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widget) >>> extension installed. >>> See http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Special:Version >>> >>> Plese, check if you can use it to embed Google maps etc. >>> >>> *BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronise" in Lojban????* >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >>>>> >>>>> .u'u >>>>> >>>>> Apparently that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's >>>>> back to showing the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and >>>>> triggering the "Saving failed" popup. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the pages that led me to believe it would work: >>>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the >>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace variable) >>>>> http: >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>> //www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_default_namespaces (says >>>>> the default namespace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS) >>>>> >>>>> If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should >>>>> revert back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>>> >>>> >>>> *UPDATE.* >>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>> >>>> >>>>> Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonymous edits. >>>>> >>>> >>>> how to do that? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> *UPDATE.* >>>>>> The following strings have been changed to: >>>>>> >>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>>>>> >>>>>> to ki'e doi vruxir toi >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It also looks like you can do this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = true; >>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] = false; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then, edits on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to >>>>>>> translations will not require reCAPTCHA. >>>>>>> (To the best of my knowledge, that is what will happen; the Wiki >>>>>>> will be slightly more secure that way). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I changed the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The current values are >>>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = false; >>>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['create'] = true; >>>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] = false; >>>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true; >>>>>>>> $wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin'] = true; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What needs to be changed or added? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir wrote: >>>>>>>>> > I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the >>>>>>>>> reCAPTCHA. I have >>>>>>>>> > been able to work around it by doing this: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation >>>>>>>>> Messages >>>>>>>>> > table -- for example, the link that looks like >>>>>>>>> "Translations:jbobau >>>>>>>>> > selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can >>>>>>>>> edit that >>>>>>>>> > section of the translation and save the changes (and it will >>>>>>>>> show the >>>>>>>>> > required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save >>>>>>>>> Page".) >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I got it, thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each >>>>>>>>> translation section >>>>>>>>> > in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think >>>>>>>>> of is to >>>>>>>>> > disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix >>>>>>>>> "Translations:"; >>>>>>>>> > hopefully that is possible. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > mu'o mi'e .vruxir. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Translation pages fail in saving. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> I go translate a page >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=page-jbobau+selci%27a&language=ja&limit=100&task=view >>>>>>>>> >> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups >>>>>>>>> and says >>>>>>>>> >> "Saving failed. Please report this error." 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On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:41:26 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

Also, the $IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be made writable by the web server. See Making a directory writable by the webserver. The compiled temp= lates folder is where Smarty stores pre-compiled templates.


^ ^ I can't do that. Waiting for Robin to reply (privately, not her= e)

Robin hasnt replied yet. So i just= patched Widgets extension and changed the path from "$IP/extensions/Widgets/compiled_= templates/" to "$IP/htmlets/"

Check whether you can use Widgets n= ow.


On= Friday, December 14, 2012 11:33:31 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
Well, I was able to create widgets in the Widget:* = namespace. However, when I add widget code to an article (something along t= he lines of "{{#widget:Google Maps|...|...}}"), I can't preview or save the= page that I am editing; the server returns a "500" error.

The same problem occurred with Widget:Google Maps and Widget:YouTube, so= I don't think it's a problem with the widget source code. When a page d= oesn't contain the {{#widget:...}} code, it saves without any trou= ble.

The 500 error doesn't give any specific infor= mation for me, so I don't know what causes it. There might be a problem wit= h folder write permissions, but otherwise I couldn't get any useful informa= tion from a Google search.

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
 

On Frida= y, December 14, 2012 1:49:04 PM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
UPDATE.
Widgets 1.9.2 (http://www.mediawiki.= org/wiki/Extension:Widget) extension installed.
Plese, check if you can use it to embed Google maps etc.
<= div>
BTW how to say "update", "version" and "synchronis= e" in Lojban????


On Saturday, December= 8, 2012 9:41:35 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:


On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:13:38 AM UTC+4, vruxir wrot= e:
.u'u

Apparentl= y that didn't work the way I thought it would work. Now it's back to showin= g the reCAPTCHA on edits to translations for some reason, and triggering th= e "Saving failed" popup.

Here are the pages that l= ed me to believe it would work:
http://www.mediawiki.org/w= iki/Extension:ConfirmEdit (talks about the $wgCaptchaTriggers= OnNamespace variable)
<= /blockquote>
 
//www.mediawiki.org/wi= ki/Extension_default_namespaces (says the default namesp= ace for "Translations:" is NS_TRANSLATIONS)

If you can't think of a reason why it didn't work, I guess we should rever= t back to $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D false;

UPDATE. 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['e= dit'] =3D false;

=
Another option would be to only require reCAPTCHA for anonym= ous edits.

how to do that?
=  

mu'= o mi'e .vruxir.

On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:54:15 PM UTC-5, la gle= ki wrote:
UPDATE.
The foll= owing strings have been changed to:

$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] = =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['ed= it'] =3D false;

to ki'e doi vruxir toi

On Friday= , December 7, 2012 11:29:24 PM UTC+4, vruxir wrote:
It also looks like you can do this:

$wgC= aptchaTriggers['edit'] =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTriggersOnNamespace[NS_TRANSLATIONS]['edit'] =3D false;

Then, edits= on basic pages will require reCAPTCHA, but edits to translations will not = require reCAPTCHA.
(To the best of my knowledge, that is what wil= l happen; the Wiki will be slightly more secure that way).

mu'o mi'e .vruxir.


On Friday, December 7, 2012 1= :11:27 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:
I c= hanged the value of $wgCaptchaTriggers['edit'] to false.

The cu= rrent values are
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit']       &n= bsp;  =3D false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['create']   &= nbsp;    =3D true; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl'] &= nbsp;      =3D false; 
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] =3D true;
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin']  = ;    =3D true;

What needs to be changed or added?
On Friday, December 7, 2012 2:53:58 AM UTC+4, guskant wrote:On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:54 AM, vruxir <= ;kex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I noticed this too. I'm pretty sure it is because of the reCAPTCHA= . I have
> been able to work around it by doing this:
>
> Right-click on the link in the first column of the Translation Mes= sages
> table -- for example, the link that looks like "Translations:jboba= u
> selci'a/25/en" -- and open the link in a new tab. Then you can edi= t that
> section of the translation and save the changes (and it will show = the
> required reCAPTCHA below the translation after you click "Save Pag= e".)
>

I got it, thanks!

> I hope there is a way to fix that, because editing each translatio= n section
> in a new tab slows things down. The only obvious fix I can think o= f is to
> disable reCAPTCHA on pages that begin with the prefix "Translation= s:";
> hopefully that is possible.
>
> mu'o mi'e .vruxir.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:26:22 PM UTC-5, guskant wrote:
>>
>> Translation pages fail in saving.
>>
>> I go translate a page
>>
>> http://mw.lojba= n.org/index.php?title=3DSpecial%3ATranslate&taction=3Dtransla= te&group=3Dpage-jbobau+selci%27a&language=3Dja&limit= =3D100&task=3Dview
>> and edit my translation, but fail in saving. A dialog popups a= nd says
>> "Saving failed. Please report this error." Please fix this pro= blem.
>
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