Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:33513) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TkeYp-00067H-Gk; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:33:16 -0800 Received: by mail-pb0-f61.google.com with SMTP id wz12sf4092477pbc.16 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DCb85Ax8/Nv0ky9juMPk9DF5n3tQCkMw1Cf9XzWgqkI=; b=bH5XBphW8z4DhH+9owzjN6KZbplRZGcT4+nqRAS+4jnFEi3yCSeck3f/IqqJCNY/5u hFb664kgMNkCAt23FgOMyxnouIeAk96Ak8pInTwmGcYkeDAFPLfBrb9rPF0Ee9LKDItg gwGzQd4sWtAqGXNeiE/Bq3T6j8dz9Mrob0VmeSn2Cd8zy20FCj7ck9LID5Sr1B5Zloyn DtyYarEz54MrFCWjOAFiJsuVfiAmf9h6QcrGV0qhn3NMReL4Xily5ONuY30lyRXtqzXW vcQgXH9zmrvQqRtBuKaPJvKPomweIpLGtvAEw9fuyxDErXrKUDAjjmvQQ8Iib8CO6hEE glTg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DCb85Ax8/Nv0ky9juMPk9DF5n3tQCkMw1Cf9XzWgqkI=; b=lVGAccEcKJ3BxJpTNTdcMOdOf+1So2fXzPqZoofSDoE+reuRDi8EK5KwVNOQtsikhi Md1F9Z6nwLsa73zsFW00LryoddFHpUaQm/3sOvoB9xGwA1jL9ofwNbXSYFFCVJc29y3f 2T7MgfuJ8PEqumok0nQIA4GBjrBjMsn/8aEfvAeHUuSjUGWLUV0YFwl72FX4wDpeDwHc sGWcCwfzaTIo2uJnuNfBPHL4rA06/jqJ1unFzPzMNiJAnZ3iw0HTunPrscW3PEB5Ka4R AoZAdYAdhBQFlquFcPJyoEQOn0o3vJ+MJCe3wE8xgS23swawP2dD5R7iyJYNxUATcH9f nEzA== X-Received: by 10.50.0.204 with SMTP id 12mr5684772igg.9.1355765577132; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:57 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.222.129 with SMTP id qm1ls3763712igc.32.canary; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.63.83 with SMTP id b19mr10390815ici.23.1355765576351; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.63.83 with SMTP id b19mr10390814ici.23.1355765576334; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ul6si597657igb.2.2012.12.17.09.32.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id xn12so6190436obc.4 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.73 with SMTP id g9mr12442380oei.134.1355765576023; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4396520b-b0d8-4f4f-bdf9-19f51684032f@googlegroups.com> References: <4396520b-b0d8-4f4f-bdf9-19f51684032f@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:32:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {cpedu} places vs. {minde, fraxu} etc. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1ebc28ec04504d10fc5af X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1ebc28ec04504d10fc5af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM, la gleki wrote: > On Monday, December 17, 2012 7:36:45 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> >>> >> I don't recall the exact one, but I believe the first irregular gismu I >>> came across was one of the metric measurements, mass, maybe? >>> >>> >> >> It was easy to find it: mitre has four places versus 3with all the other >> metric gismu, with the third being direction of measurement rather than >> standard like the others, and the standard being x4. >> >> The non-metric length minli, is also irregular, in that it has its x3 and >> x4 in reverse order from the other non-metric, although excepting that it >> has the exact same place structure. >> >> Interestingly, the metric and non-metric lengths are also irregular to >> each other, since the metric has a direction of measurement, and the >> non-metric does not. >> > > Any examples of how {te mitre} is used? For me it's just {farna} inside > gismu definition. Am I wrong? > No idea. I've never used that place at all: {lo dinju cu galtu mitre li vono} > >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/R_XjVyGn4soJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:00 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, December 17, 2012 7:36:45 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Mo= n, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jonathan Jones <eye...@= gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
I don't recall the exact one, but I believe the= first irregular gismu I came across was one of the metric measurements, ma= ss, maybe?
<snip>

It was= easy to find it: mitre has four places versus 3with all the other metric g= ismu, with the third being direction of measurement rather than standard li= ke the others, and the standard being x4.

The non-metric length minli, is also irregular, in that it has its x3 a= nd x4 in reverse order from the other non-metric, although excepting that i= t has the exact same place structure.

Interestingly, the metric and = non-metric lengths are also irregular to each other, since the metric has a= direction of measurement, and the non-metric does not.

Any examples of how {te = mitre} is used? For me it's just {farna} inside gismu definition. Am I = wrong?

No idea. I've never used that place a= t all: {lo dinju cu galtu mitre li vono}
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