Received: from mail-da0-f62.google.com ([209.85.210.62]:64086) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tl48N-0007dY-LS; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:39 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f62.google.com with SMTP id n15sf674157dad.27 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=/sNl+eyub3tlMIK698+lQ96V2HRQykxZC/yiEQ2A9TI=; b=toTmnAXCEDvJV3aamBtVajGp6OxdePePcDECpuoTja6ezLMxfU2DrUazuh68H5yTRU X1bFoIuPpFn1jAte5F7osyZeAgQAbWb4CZ6mBgGY569lsm1rTrX3X1McpGaQ93waRrwi aXxU7jDbmLKl5okF8yeE1B371H3KNRVkgpovUj6BB+GcVRLnlnuUVkdvMYm0idA6jtul WKfM2ei0Lq/Q7AwyFIy72AI8BBH8R7Yce2h9M77QEu/81/YLin0iJ5D/fi3eJY9kPU+U 7lO5dF9ylbc3vmVbQDvH+MZ2NmfEpONlOvOIx2V8WQgl/fITPUzU4GblmUbsFvAWQFcS MxjQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=/sNl+eyub3tlMIK698+lQ96V2HRQykxZC/yiEQ2A9TI=; b=vPpOjq19nnfbcxqI4GszPMHLR/tACQukqIjI6NpwWRM7TIrHJI40c8mnKn/RjtUX2N /Ry5Ob7tsZQFSsrJ2S5mOSvQ4lFzCh0UDAvqdAZFyeKuyjHB1dcM+6C/2yBgfqehhVPR OFlOBXqannFzyMbIM+LTnp8ZiMOlWoGoQlWs+/qJ87VNBYik5OFzCokFM2JtmehzJ/oJ KfDiAzha5XiYEN2pKqIk4WQ9/PUQJsQ/AaLGRJe8cQT0Gsd3Qpx3ydVBVcpusq+QxMX3 zjr/CUWb30NX1y0J5iDyZiaTkgy3AqvaLzFE21UQm4JbSvSryiCl2Y+aaMbXhFxJys1F Ng+w== X-Received: by 10.49.12.238 with SMTP id b14mr565470qec.18.1355863881121; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.71.115 with SMTP id t19ls546063qeu.20.gmail; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.255.136 with SMTP id aq8mr1401594ved.29.1355863880532; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.255.136 with SMTP id aq8mr1401593ved.29.1355863880491; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vb0-f49.google.com (mail-vb0-f49.google.com [209.85.212.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20si918697vdg.3.2012.12.18.12.51.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.49; Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id r6so1449993vbi.36 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.22.107 with SMTP id c11mr4612452vdf.73.1355863880355; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.13.197 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:51:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmene From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9eaaf3cd4e04d126a8a8 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307c9eaaf3cd4e04d126a8a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can fix this by putting the {pe} in front: {la pe la nolzu'e zei ioxnaris [ku] zmabaz nitoris}. Otherwise (since the name is a cmevla) you encounter the issue you mentioned. mu'o mi'e la latro'a On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Betsemes wrote: > I need your feedback. I have been thinking on naming conventions for a > fictional story; more specifically on what would be family names. On > my fictional story, boys take the name of their fathers as family name > and girls take the name of their mothers. The name is built by putting > them together by using {pe} thus: {la zmabaz nitoris pe la nolzu'e zei > ioxnaris}. In this example the character name is {la zmabaz nitoris} > while eir family name is {la nolzu'e zei ioxnaris}. But I have been > thinking that this might not be actually a full name, but two names > bound together by {pe}. Is that how is it interpreted? Would this > naming conventions be a possibility in the real world? > > ki'e mu'o mi'e betsemes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf307c9eaaf3cd4e04d126a8a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can fix this by putting the {pe} in front: {la pe la nolzu'e zei io= xnaris [ku] zmabaz nitoris}. Otherwise (since the name is a cmevla) you enc= ounter the issue you mentioned.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Betsemes <= span dir=3D"ltr"><betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:

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