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I don't *quite* *understand*, but I'm sure understanding will dawn on me as my lojban skills strengthen. What do the scores for each of the lujvo represent? On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:13:52 AM UTC-6, Efrain wrote: > > Well, obviously I assume that you know that those valsi that end on a > consonant are cmevla, do you? > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Betsemes > > wrote: > > Here: > http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?tanru=rokci+cevni&vlalei=pluja > > you get: > > lujvo Score > > rokcei 5867 > > rokcev 5898 > > ro'ircei 7456 > > ro'ircev 7487 > > rokcevni 7937 > > rokcycei 7997 > > rokcycev 8028 > > ro'ircevni 9526 > > rokcycevni 10067 > > > > mu'o mi'e betsemes > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Adam Chevalier > > > wrote: > >> I've noticed that some of the possible combinations of gismu components > when > >> forming a lujvo confuse vlasisku. > >> Does this mean these combinations are invalid? Or does vlasisku simply > have > >> a hard time seeing some of the combos? > >> > >> e.g. > >> > >> rokci - rok, ro'i > >> cevni - cev, cei > >> > >> vlasisku can see the components in cevro'i and rokcei, but no other > >> combinations. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "lojban" group. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/4iWt0PNsWDoJ. > >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/v8qBk8jVDFoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_808_33379540.1355951357151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Efrain: I suppose if I'd known that I wouldn't need to ask the question, w= ould I?

@Pierre: Thank you, that was helpful. I don't quite&n= bsp;understand, but I'm sure understanding will dawn on me as my loj= ban skills strengthen.

What do the scores for each of th= e lujvo represent?


On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 9:13:52 = AM UTC-6, Efrain wrote:
Well, o= bviously I assume that you know that those valsi that end on a
consonant are cmevla, do you?

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Betsemes <bets...@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
> Here:
http://jwodder.free= shell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi?tanru=3Drokci+cevni&vlalei=3Dpluj= a
> you get:
> lujvo Score
> rokcei 5867
> rokcev 5898
> ro'ircei 7456
> ro'ircev 7487
> rokcevni 7937
> rokcycei 7997
> rokcycev 8028
> ro'ircevni 9526
> rokcycevni 10067
>
> mu'o mi'e betsemes
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Adam Chevalier
> <chevali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've noticed that some of the possible combinations of gismu c= omponents when
>> forming a lujvo confuse vlasisku.
>> Does this mean these combinations are invalid? Or does vlasisk= u simply have
>> a hard time seeing some of the combos?
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> rokci - rok, ro'i
>> cevni - cev, cei
>>
>> vlasisku can see the components in cevro'i and rokcei, but no = other
>> combinations.
>>
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