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Subject: [lojban] Had Obama used KOhA...
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coi lo jibni be lo fanmo be li 2012

Ranked second in Politifact's "Lie of the Year" is a Mitt Romney campaign
video, which quote-mined Obama as saying:

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that
happen."

The video aimed to make it appear as though Obama was attributing success
to the government and not to the people. The quote's actual context:

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There
was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this
unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you=92ve got a business, you
didn=92t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

What he meant by "that" that you didn't build, then, would be "roads and
bridges". The pro-noun however *can* technically refer to the business that
you've got as well, and the Romney campaign (let alone Fox News) took this
anaphoric ambiguity to their advantage.

Had the presidential race taken place in Lojbanistan, would such
quote-mining have been possible? Which KOhA would Obama have used for
"that"?

mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>coi lo jibni be lo fanmo be li 2012<br><br>Ranked sec=
ond in Politifact&#39;s &quot;Lie of the Year&quot; is a Mitt Romney campai=
gn video, which quote-mined Obama as saying:<br><br>&quot;If you&#39;ve got=
 a business, you didn&#39;t build that. Somebody else made that happen.&quo=
t;<br>


<br>The video aimed to make it appear as though Obama was attributing succe=
ss to the government and not to the people. The quote&#39;s actual context:=
<br><br>&quot;If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some=
 help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to=
 create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to =
thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you=92ve got a business,=
 you didn=92t build that. Somebody else made that happen.&quot;<br>


<br>What he meant by &quot;that&quot; that you didn&#39;t build, then, woul=
d be &quot;roads and bridges&quot;. The pro-noun however *can* technically =
refer to the business that you&#39;ve got as well, and the Romney campaign =
(let alone Fox News) took this anaphoric ambiguity to their advantage.<br>

<br></div><div>Had the presidential race taken place in Lojbanistan, would =
such quote-mining have been possible? Which KOhA would Obama have used for =
&quot;that&quot;?<br><br></div><div>mu&#39;o<br></div></div>

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