Received: from mail-ob0-f183.google.com ([209.85.214.183]:47378) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TleqG-0002nE-PG; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:22 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f183.google.com with SMTP id x4sf1737385obh.10 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Uw2iyjYVAe1jVfDu4JO7HRdrRqrOnNRQfX4IdGUV28=; b=VXIP7BtAy196P29xVZcmvQyXIPbHYCdsB+Lh/M4Mxuzs803rc6L7Use8njE+1YOA15 QPqbwJVPS5PZnH6Rs5Sqrgb73AGdN9uFnAHK6fT7pwh2nplq3xvQntv1194AAtobYufT pwtcso+rpWSTw0jsNrg6ZRvEZoe6YeM4/SEHs1scfREBvkr2nKMv26tTBdnS694aSNwY wNUAsk02hgMIkqSN1bAGkj09IG7Lup+qEv0YnSBdy0B6IIZLX7qnuGVZBKx2wNYYcHwe gRDE6BIp5bW+mTHzUrilUcSx4UhBH1/IYiMjFOSsq9zR4Op3XPBr8BIN6ZCkJMKnJWr2 ZMXg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0Uw2iyjYVAe1jVfDu4JO7HRdrRqrOnNRQfX4IdGUV28=; b=NLhcHnVakBxQUGIlIFZqYsLwSLCbgHc4sSgD7h3opOcwllWTfYtQPC7NJX3xuOmEUW aaEAwuZLsx3kRoVeNqFVPfbsm7q6NCraTA43KxrdoLs9VARD0MeL8lgpFFaYzpkVPwjX GT5QM1F6pvghS3FrCFTaOAEBxt1VLu7X3qfkm4MoGodQtV5h42QtUJqwfY9MLObrAvez d6H2ch+4uO+cZLS1S+Fmo4wdXCRtwPyaw+E4opdHsI7yyj9Yzlkg9M0quqGA1rPi2lGL YJTAyji8KUdsNKPMBkycV7ghRcozTriLvEi8jW3ulXFl91aNcAUp0aR6ilM612bS/++0 nPOQ== X-Received: by 10.50.7.198 with SMTP id l6mr3638153iga.3.1356004986331; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.150.172 with SMTP id uj12ls2184252igb.29.gmail; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.121.66 with SMTP id i2mr7461037icr.28.1356004984430; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.121.66 with SMTP id i2mr7461036icr.28.1356004984419; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dx8si1519566igc.1.2012.12.20.04.03.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.46; Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id h16so3261500oag.33 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.168.236 with SMTP id zz12mr7837611oeb.12.1356004984279; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.142.200 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:03:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6a7fd079-93fd-46ee-8c8b-ddb489d40ad4@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:03:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Use of gismu components in lujvo From: Betsemes To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Adam Chevalier wrote: > @Pierre: Thank you, that was helpful. I don't quite understand, but I'm s= ure > understanding will dawn on me as my lojban skills strengthen. > > What do the scores for each of the lujvo represent? > > Here: http://dag.github.com/cll/4/3/ it says: > All brivla have the following properties: > 1.always end in a vowel; > 2.always contain a consonant pair in the first five letters, where =93y= =94 and apostrophe are not counted as letters for this purpose. (See Sectio= n 6.) > 3.always are stressed on the next-to-the-last (penultimate) syllable; thi= s implies that they have two or more syllables. Read the second point and let's take ro'i and cei. By just putting them together we get "ro'icei". The first five letters are "roice" (the apostrophe doesn't count) which do not have any pair of consonants. So the rule that Pierre mentions comes in. You place "r" between ro'i and cei and get ro'ircei. Now "roirc" complies with the rules of making brivla because of the "rc" consonant pair. mu'o mi'e betsemes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.