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On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 24 December 2012 12:18, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> ..I propose something far more vague, like {ju'e}....
>>>
>>
>> Your proposal is what it currently is. :)
>>
>>
> Haha, although to be honest, practically no one (talking about IRC usage
> here) uses double FA, so I wouldn't quite call it "what it currently is".
> Also, I didn't think that any official decisions had been made with regards
> to double FA. If you can provide a link to a record of the decision, that'd
> be really great.
>

Specifically because I am tired, I don't really care all that much, and I
don't think it matters mainly due to it's lack of use, I'm not going to.

I will tell you that this has come up before, was discussed, and it was
determined that "(FA) <sumti> FA <sumti>" is equivalent to "(FA) <sumti>
ju'e <sumti>", and that I'm fairly certain the discussion is in the Google
Group archives- although it is possible that the discussion predates the
move to GG, I doubt it does. It's also more likely to be in the main group
than the beginners.


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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jacob Erringto=
n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On 24 December 2012 12:18, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=
=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Jacob Erringto=
n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">



..I propose something far more vague, like {ju&#39;e}....<br></blockquote><=
/div><br clear=3D"all">Your proposal is what it currently is. :)<div></div>=
<div><br></div></blockquote><div>

<br></div></div><div>Haha, although to be honest, practically no one (talki=
ng about IRC usage here) uses double FA, so I wouldn&#39;t quite call it &q=
uot;what it currently is&quot;. Also, I didn&#39;t think that any official =
decisions had been made with regards to double FA. If you can provide a lin=
k to a record of the decision, that&#39;d be really great.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Specifically because I am tired, I don&#39;t re=
ally care all that much, and I don&#39;t think it matters mainly due to it&=
#39;s lack of use, I&#39;m not going to.<br><br>I will tell you that this h=
as come up before, was discussed, and it was determined that &quot;(FA) &lt=
;sumti&gt; FA &lt;sumti&gt;&quot; is equivalent to &quot;(FA) &lt;sumti&gt;=
 ju&#39;e &lt;sumti&gt;&quot;, and that I&#39;m fairly certain the discussi=
on is in the Google Group archives- although it is possible that the discus=
sion predates the move to GG, I doubt it does. It&#39;s also more likely to=
 be in the main group than the beginners.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div cla=
ss=3D"im">

<div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>

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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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