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[sei ...se'u] ... li'u}. No solution? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93998ebc564f204d1ae4528 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93998ebc564f204d1ae4528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:36 AM, la gleki wrote: > On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:21:18 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:01 AM, la gleki wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >>>> >>>> Just as my-two-cents comment, I would like to say that I too dislike >>>> the use of {sei ... se'u} for split quoting. As it stands right now, there >>>> isn't really any other option, although I think I like the idea of FAlu for >>>> that purpose, as gleki spoke of earlier. >>>> >>> >>> I'll wait until tsani replies. I'm not a legislative power in >>> Lojbanistan. >>> >> >> Who said anything about legislation? I was merely stating my opinion that >> I like the idea of using {FAlu} to split quotes over {sei...se'u}. >> >> That said, excepting of course .camgusmis., NO individual has legislative >> power. The BPFK as a whole does, of course, but it's power is exercised via >> the votes of it's participating members- which, as far as I'm concerned, >> means anyone subscribed to the BPFK list. >> > > IMO off topics must be held exclusively in Lojban but ok. I disagree. I'm > subscribed to the bpfk-list (and I want to be subsribed to it further) but > i don't want to be it's member. > The BPFK is dead and must be recreated of fluent lojbanic speakers of > which i'm familiar with camgusmis, gejyspa, tsani, selpa'i, latro'a, > xalbo, tengo. > Others must be forbidden to cast any votes. Sorry if I forgot someone and > of course i dont force anyone to be a member of BPFK. I just mean that > linguists or programmers even the most prominent can't say anything worth > listening to unless they know and use a language. > And yet you do it all the time. :) > > >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:36 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:21:18 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On T= ue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:01 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:Just as my-two-cents comment, I would like t= o say that I too dislike the use of {sei ... se'u} for split quoting. A= s it stands right now, there isn't really any other option, although I = think I like the idea of FAlu for that purpose, as gleki spoke of earlier.<= br clear=3D"all">

I'll wait until tsani replies. I= 'm not a legislative power in Lojbanistan.

= Who said anything about legislation? I was merely stating my opinion that I= like the idea of using {FAlu} to split quotes over {sei...se'u}.

That said, excepting of course .camgusmis., NO individual has legislati= ve power. The BPFK as a whole does, of course, but it's power is exerci= sed via the votes of it's participating members- which, as far as I'= ;m concerned, means anyone subscribed to the BPFK list.

IMO off topics must be held exclusiv= ely in Lojban but ok. I disagree. I'm subscribed to the bpfk-list (and = I want to be subsribed to it further) but i don't want to be it's m= ember.
The BPFK is dead and must be recreated of fluent lojbanic speakers of = which i'm =A0familiar with camgusmis, gejyspa, tsani, selpa'i, latr= o'a, xalbo, tengo.
Others must be forbidden to cast any votes= . Sorry if I forgot someone and of course i dont force anyone to be a membe= r of BPFK. I just mean that linguists or programmers even the most prominen= t can't say anything worth listening to unless they know and use a lang= uage.

And yet you do it all the time. :)
=A0


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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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