Received: from mail-gh0-f186.google.com ([209.85.160.186]:39491) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TnVwL-0003Xe-8O; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:18 -0800 Received: by mail-gh0-f186.google.com with SMTP id f11sf2986868ghb.13 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gIB8s29UXOhcbv9Pbm5G8Z4+qNYV8xcvumKSehkXD0Q=; b=jyQkHQbPZbfVrSWUqp3CvHiL7TtUr/NbStsy9HslMZSdFairVhqxoPe0gDybzsu82S Uj9kvmkXbK2sApdNsXxsLHfHjXjKviZXi5cy7UOyCT7Vamw1h4kZMufAp0ewn7Q1gwgp nXWAoowGPiYyKp6JJz6NHXkrYcDOhjKvNhzkvfIJAQqXSpNvsg4c9q9vIFbQUiSAefrG qMajH9AeqbRgy7nRToHg48i8t5SbVdrndUn1yZigyFnNUp7vBzQbGFFJOiDrifmx0L50 S5/N86Vm1a9Sr6m36VMxTR8zHW4nuP933+8jqVJNRG2I2ldD0P0helZs/LtWsXwf8vck LuYA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gIB8s29UXOhcbv9Pbm5G8Z4+qNYV8xcvumKSehkXD0Q=; b=Wveqq2RAQHBpDl2qxhSy1D0s7NZxbaWRUagosgUgJW6GTPLm/0PahNtT6dSGbUJP4K h+kwG92CsrCKM5uH4Y9Vm074VyrRnqGMyRBR+r4OHbR1AEKr0q/cMjtEeIvpnleE7C6L 3LklHh4Y38zZxWKPrpDZyIoLHmXz0HBPVj8O9gXTR/PI1JRqFOIhWcbC6Kl51WAUxU6e quWn8lWZj9aU2x5O8tmiUg2jqlJnbuVKPwANWAsg5YH2rAp3IqCpGnk47oFyWIRUSZc8 6S7FPLE9NNnm9orImxqcBvtBUKiOUf2HDvTAgunJI752w1LdjST5hqxrVCUIr/ssM5e+ 92Rw== X-Received: by 10.49.24.164 with SMTP id v4mr3634996qef.6.1356447422432; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.106.133 with SMTP id gu5ls3000393qeb.14.gmail; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.72.169 with SMTP id e9mr3634223qev.3.1356447421195; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:57:00 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <11ecfede-d731-44b8-b71e-8aa427be0544@googlegroups.com> <60b42266-009d-4fd8-a5e3-2bd3181095d4@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Comments inside quotations. {lu ... [sei ...se'u] ... li'u}. No solution? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_327_33299428.1356447420879" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_327_33299428.1356447420879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:38:51 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:36 AM, la gleki > > wrote: > >> On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:21:18 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:01 AM, la gleki wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just as my-two-cents comment, I would like to say that I too dislike >>>>> the use of {sei ... se'u} for split quoting. As it stands right now, there >>>>> isn't really any other option, although I think I like the idea of FAlu for >>>>> that purpose, as gleki spoke of earlier. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'll wait until tsani replies. I'm not a legislative power in >>>> Lojbanistan. >>>> >>> >>> Who said anything about legislation? I was merely stating my opinion >>> that I like the idea of using {FAlu} to split quotes over {sei...se'u}. >>> >>> That said, excepting of course .camgusmis., NO individual has >>> legislative power. The BPFK as a whole does, of course, but it's power is >>> exercised via the votes of it's participating members- which, as far as I'm >>> concerned, means anyone subscribed to the BPFK list. >>> >> >> IMO off topics must be held exclusively in Lojban but ok. I disagree. I'm >> subscribed to the bpfk-list (and I want to be subsribed to it further) but >> i don't want to be it's member. >> The BPFK is dead and must be recreated of fluent lojbanic speakers of >> which i'm familiar with camgusmis, gejyspa, tsani, selpa'i, latro'a, >> xalbo, tengo. >> Others must be forbidden to cast any votes. Sorry if I forgot someone and >> of course i dont force anyone to be a member of BPFK. I just mean that >> linguists or programmers even the most prominent can't say anything worth >> listening to unless they know and use a language. >> > > And yet you do it all the time. :) > Yes, I do. And will do. And I hope neither I nor anyone else without fluency will have any real voices to change the language. > > >> >> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/pdP7jBMYUZAJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/1Ws5H17Sf-4J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:38:51 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Tue, D= ec 25, 2012 at 7:36 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gm= ail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:21:18 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Tue, Dec 25, 2= 012 at 7:01 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:39:20 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:Just as my-two-cents comment, I would like t= o say that I too dislike the use of {sei ... se'u} for split quoting. As it= stands right now, there isn't really any other option, although I think I = like the idea of FAlu for that purpose, as gleki spoke of earlier.

I'll wait until tsani replies. I'm n= ot a legislative power in Lojbanistan.

Who said= anything about legislation? I was merely stating my opinion that I like th= e idea of using {FAlu} to split quotes over {sei...se'u}.

That said, excepting of course .camgusmis., NO individual has legislati= ve power. The BPFK as a whole does, of course, but it's power is exercised = via the votes of it's participating members- which, as far as I'm concerned= , means anyone subscribed to the BPFK list.

IMO off topics must be held exclusiv= ely in Lojban but ok. I disagree. I'm subscribed to the bpfk-list (and I wa= nt to be subsribed to it further) but i don't want to be it's member.
The BPFK is dead and must be recreated of fluent lojbanic speakers of = which i'm  familiar with camgusmis, gejyspa, tsani, selpa'i, latro'a, = xalbo, tengo.
Others must be forbidden to cast any votes. Sorry i= f I forgot someone and of course i dont force anyone to be a member of BPFK= . I just mean that linguists or programmers even the most prominent can't s= ay anything worth listening to unless they know and use a language.

And yet you do it all the time. :)

Yes, I do. And will do. And I hope neither I = nor anyone else without fluency will have any real voices to change the lan= guage.
 


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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa b= u .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your fa= ther. :D )

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu= do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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